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    Half-Life 2

    Game » consists of 18 releases. Released Nov 16, 2004

    Several years after the Black Mesa disaster, Gordon Freeman awakens from stasis to aid a resistance movement against the Combine, a collective of trans-dimensional aliens that have conquered Earth.

    I cant believe how good half life 2 still looks.

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    #1  Edited By brandoncooper17

    A 2004 game and i still rivals alot of games now days. Seriously i just decided to play it again after it being 2 years and game must be updated by valve or something because it looks so good i swear i dont remember it being this good looking at launch and i ran it at max. 

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    #2  Edited By Surkov

    They have updated it with the HL: Ep 2 version of the Source Engine. That's why. 


    But I completely agree with your point, Half-Life 2 still looks great. 
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    #3  Edited By flaminghobo

    The Source Engine has got to be one of the best video game engines ever developed in terms of shelf life.

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    #4  Edited By brandoncooper17
    @Surkov said:
    " They have updated it with the HL: Ep 2 version of the Source Engine. That's why. 

    But I completely agree with your point, Half-Life 2 still looks great. 
    "
    Ya did they not do that with most of there games.

    Newer ones i dont think half life or original counter strike source go updated though.


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    #5  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    I'm playing episode 2, it's okay, could be better. I think what is strong is the design of the game and how clean everything looks. But i'm not that impressed these days, but still sort of impressed.

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    #6  Edited By PatchRowcester

    I have to agree. I played Lost Coast the other day, which I believe uses the HDR (?), I could be wrong, but it still looked very good. I was very impressed, and after 7 years, that's a huge accomplishment.

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    #7  Edited By Surkov
    @PatchRowcester: true. The whole reason the lost coast exists is to show of their HDR lighting and to experiment with commentary
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    #8  Edited By ajamafalous

    I'd say it looks about on par with games today in some spots, but below average in others.


    I mean, I guess it looks great if you qualify it as a game that came out in 2004.

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    #9  Edited By toowalrus

    I wish I lived in you're nostalgia fogged fantasy world, because I just played it for the first time, and it looks and plays terrible and terribly... 


    You should come check out my nostalgia fogged fantasy world, it's pretty rad, Ocarina of Time still looks amazing... First person sling-shot... GOTY 2011.
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    #10  Edited By tourgen
    @brandoncooper17: I've been playing episode 1 and it definitely stacks up well against most games released today.  The sound is really good too.  The pistol and shotgun sound great.  I had forgotten about the HL series so it was pretty cool to find little random puzzles scattered around among the shooter segments.

    The hi-res textures, the screen resolution, and the dynamic lighting are all very good.  The dynamic lighting and shadows are probably the biggest deals and it's stuff you don't see done well on the consoles.  Hmmm can't remember if the shadows were dynamic or not in HL2 - if not they are really top notch baked-in shadow maps.

    The biggest thing tho is how great the 3d collision detection is.  I have never fallen thru a crack in the world or gotten stuck on a railing, or popped up onto something I can't down from in a Source Engine game.  Unlike almost every other game out there.  Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Gears of War, Infamous, off the top of my head all have areas of busted collision geometry or just busted detection.  Not even going to mention Fallout.
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    #11  Edited By KaosAngel

    Played HL2 a couple days ago due to PSN and it looks bad.  EP1 and EP2 look alright though.

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    #12  Edited By PrivateIronTFU

    In 2004 it looked freaking amazing. 


    Textures are a little muddy going by today's standards, but it still doesn't look that bad.
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    #13  Edited By thehexeditor

      

      If this doesn't make you nostalgia hard, I feel sorry for you.
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    #14  Edited By MordeaniisChaos
    @TooWalrus said:

    " I wish I lived in you're nostalgia fogged fantasy world, because I just played it for the first time, and it looks and plays terrible and terribly... 
    You should come check out my nostalgia fogged fantasy world, it's pretty rad, Ocarina of Time still looks amazing... First person sling-shot... GOTY 2011.
    "

    I know peopel who played it this year for the first time who thought it looked pretty good. Not as good as the upcoming AAA games, but pretty good.

    Plus the same engine runs L4D2 and Portal 2, both of which look pretty great.
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    #15  Edited By Xtacles
    @TooWalrus:

    Lol, yeah going after how Half Life 2 plays and then posting ocarina of time as a example of smooth gameplay is a great idea.  I loved Z targeting too, but I didn't kid myself and tell myself OoT played great.


    @ The rest of you:

    As far as how Half Life 2 looks by todays standards it's no front runner by any stretch of the imagination, but the expressions, lip syncing, voice over and believability of Valves characters still takes a colossal poop over anything else released in the last 5 years.  Whats better then Half life? Killzone? Halo? Neither one of those games comes close on many of the more important factors, and so  Half Life 2 is still king of the SP FPS.
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    #16  Edited By KaosAngel
    @Xtacles: No one here is denying that HL2 is still one of, if not the best, story FPS out there.  People are saying the graphics didn't age as well compared to EP1 and EP2.
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    #17  Edited By Xtacles

    CoD4 looks like shit compared to Modern Warfare 2, yet they run on the same engine. I think it's just safe to say that EP1 and EP2 are just iterative updates to the engine and will obviously look a touch better, only a year seperates both Left 4 Deads and yet the second one looks quite a bit better.

    My point was mainly that the Facial Expressions and Lip Syncing no matter which version of Half Life 2 you're playing is still far better then most games today. Add in the varied gameplay, characters that aren't just cardboard standouts and amazing sound/music and you're left with a visual experience that like I said before still beats games like Killzone 3 and Halo Reach.

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    #18  Edited By Potter9156

    I should replay Half-Life 2. Is 15 times too much?

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    #19  Edited By ape_dosmil
    @TooWalrus said:
    " I wish I lived in you're nostalgia fogged fantasy world, because I just played it for the first time, and it looks and plays terrible and terribly... 

    You should come check out my nostalgia fogged fantasy world, it's pretty rad, Ocarina of Time still looks amazing... First person sling-shot... GOTY 2011.
    "
    The fuck? I played Half-Life 2 (and episodes 1 and 2) for the first time last year and it certainly does not play terribly.
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    #20  Edited By zaglis
    @Potter9156 said:
    " I should replay Half-Life 2. Is 15 times too much? "
    Seems perfectly normal to me.

    Man. All this talk about Half-Life 2 makes me want to play some Half-Life 2.
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    #21  Edited By BulletproofMonk

    The characters still look really good. But that's about it.

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    #22  Edited By KaosAngel

    HL2 drags on to much in the middle, like it or not.

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    #23  Edited By natetodamax

    It doesn't look that great.

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    #24  Edited By Potter9156

    Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.



    You can't.
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    #25  Edited By Yanngc33

    That Ravenhood part still scares the shit out of me

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    #26  Edited By natetodamax
    @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.


    You can't.
    "
    Dead Space?
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    #27  Edited By Make_Me_Mad

    I find that I only enjoy Half Life 2 when I'm not actually playing it.  I can reminisce about how good it was, but if I try to play it I just find myself saying "Well, it's a lot better after this part..." over and over until the end.

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    #28  Edited By eternalshades

    For those wanted to replay Half-life 2 and have a monster pc, take a look at the Half Life 2 cinematic mod ( http://www.cinematicmod.com/ ). Ultra high-res textures, models, and environment change the feel of the game considerably.

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    #29  Edited By toowalrus
    @natetodamax said:
    " @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.


    You can't.
    "
    Dead Space? "
    Assassin's Creed 2.
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    #30  Edited By Surkov

    The cinematic mod disgusts me.  

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    #31  Edited By ventilaator

    I played Half-Life 2 for the first time quite recently without everything on max and it looked completely fine to me, so yeah, graphics-wise it holds up pretty well.

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    #32  Edited By Commisar123

    It is shocking how good it looked on the orange box

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    #33  Edited By ape_dosmil
    @Surkov said:
    " The cinematic mod disgusts me.   "
    Yeah I really don't like what they did with Alyx at all.
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    #34  Edited By Mr_Skeleton
    @FlamingHobo said:
    "

                        The Source Engine has got to be one of the best video game engines ever developed in terms of shelf life.

                       

                    "

    Not really, they just keep updating it. The only reason it seems that way is because they don't sell it to other developers they don't need to put a new number after the name like the Unreal 3/3.5 engine but even today there are games that come out using an updated version of the Unreal 2 engine.
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    #35  Edited By Potter9156
    @TooWalrus said: 
    " @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.


    You can't.
    "
    Assassin's Creed 2. "

    That one is pretty good. But eehhh.

    @natetodamax
    said:
    " @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.


    You can't.
    "
    Dead Space? "

    Ravenholm is far creepier and without all the cheap scare tactics, and it manages to get it's creep on with larger, brighter environments.

    At least, IMO.
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    #36  Edited By zero_
    @thehexeditor said:
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      If this doesn't make you nostalgia hard, I feel sorry for you. "
    HL2's music wasn't all that memorable...  it worked, but I wouldn't be able to tell you what scene that came from, in fact, had you told me it was a HL2 song I wouldn't even know lol...
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    #37  Edited By AhmadMetallic
    @TooWalrus said:
    " @natetodamax said:
    " @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.


    You can't.
    "
    Dead Space? "
    Assassin's Creed 2. "
    /unfollows
    /follows again

    enjoy the follow PM
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    #38  Edited By ryanwho
    @ajamafalous said:
    " I'd say it looks about on par with games today in some spots, but below average in others.I mean, I guess it looks great if you qualify it as a game that came out in 2004. "
    It looks multitudes better than Oblivion which came out a year later. I'd say implicitly, it looks great for the time and maybe it holds a candle to plenty of modern games too.
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    #39  Edited By ajamafalous
    @ryanwho said:
    " @ajamafalous said:
    " I'd say it looks about on par with games today in some spots, but below average in others.I mean, I guess it looks great if you qualify it as a game that came out in 2004. "
    It looks multitudes better than Oblivion which came out a year later. I'd say implicitly, it looks great for the time and maybe it holds a candle to plenty of modern games too. "
    I agree, though to be fair, Oblivion is an open-world game and so looks worse by consequence.

    I dunno, it's been probably a year since I've played HL2, I guess I should go boot it up for a bit to see if I'm remembering correctly.
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    #40  Edited By BeachThunder
    @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock."
    SS2 :P
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    #41  Edited By Cloudenvy

    I guess it looks fine and still plays fine but I simply can't bring myself to finish it, It's so boring to play.

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    #42  Edited By Brendan

    Valve games have a pretty clean style that lend well to ageing, but other than the characters much of the environment has aged quite a bit.  I agree that it looks great for it's time.  

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    #43  Edited By Demyx
    @natetodamax said:
    " @Potter9156 said:
    " Find me a game with better atmosphere that isn't Bioshock.


    You can't.
    "
    Dead Space? "
    Amnesia?
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    #44  Edited By TehFlan
    @TooWalrus: Ocarina of Time does still look amazing. I don't think nostalgia could possibly have anything to do with this.
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    #45  Edited By vilhelmnielsen

    Personal taste; Get off the damn internet!

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    #46  Edited By LordKisame
    @brandoncooper17:  Well; Half Life is a classic.. That title is not in vain...
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    #47  Edited By SeriouslyNow
    @Mr_Skeleton said:
    " @FlamingHobo said:
    "

                        The Source Engine has got to be one of the best video game engines ever developed in terms of shelf life.

                       

                    "
    Not really, they just keep updating it. The only reason it seems that way is because they don't sell it to other developers they don't need to put a new number after the name like the Unreal 3/3.5 engine but even today there are games that come out using an updated version of the Unreal 2 engine. "
    Actually the engine you're referring to when they say "Powered by Unreal Technology" is an updated version of Unreal Warfare which is 2.5 and was not just an updated version of 2.  It was a totat reworrking of 2 and it's what made Unreal Tournament 2003/4 possible.  Unreal 2 and Warfare are very different beasts.  Also, VALVe do indeed sell and license Source to other developers in many industries too, not just game development.  The reason why Source looks so good and so current now is that VALVe designed it to be modular from the beginning which means that they can replace/update/overhaul any single specific aspect of the engine as they need to.  When Source was released its renderer only supported Pixel Shader 2.0 (due to agreements with ATI) at the upper end, but later when The Lost Coast was released the renderer gained support for Shader Model 3 and the same is true of many aspects of the engine from disk access, to cloud support, the platform support and right through whole milieu of what makes a game engine an engine.  Of course, the licensing and branding of the engine doesn't change, nor do a lot of its assets (though they do expand - the Director for example was added later in the L4D days) so the engine has indeed had an incredibly long shelf life when compared with many of its contemporaries.  In fact its only nearest equivalent would be Gamebryo and that's not even on the same level as most companies have really used that as renderer.
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    #48  Edited By fattony12000

    A lickle bit of modding can spruce it up even more.


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    Brilliant engine all round, from the manic crazyness of 200fps on 64-player TF2 servers, to a smooth vsynced 60fps for ya L4D2 business, Valve know their shit.

    Can't for 'next gen' Source.
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    #49  Edited By phish09
    @thehexeditor:

    Unless you're like 10 years old, I don't understand how you can feel nostalgia for a game that came out in 2004?  That's like me saying, "If you don't feel Nostalgia every time you hear *x song* from Dragon Age 2, I feel bad for you."  Sure, they're both great games, but nostalgia has to be brought on by distant memories I think, and I just don't consider a game that came out when I was in my later years of college to be a distant memory. 

    Anyway, I just played through Half Life 2 again two weekends ago, and I personally don't think the graphics have aged very well at all.   Everything is so blocky and static.  I guess, if you want to qualify it with, "for a game that came out in 2004", then you've got a point, but shit Bubble Bobble still looks great for a game that came out in 1990, so really that means nothing.  The gameplay on the other hand is still as much fun as the day it came out.  Slicing off a zombies head with a flying sawblade will NEVER get old.
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    #50  Edited By thehexeditor
    @phish09 said:
    " @thehexeditor: Unless you're like 10 years old, I don't understand how you can feel nostalgia for a game that came out in 2004?  That's like me saying, "If you don't feel Nostalgia every time you hear *x song* from Dragon Age 2, I feel bad for you."  Sure, they're both great games, but nostalgia has to be brought on by distant memories I think, and I just don't consider a game that came out when I was in my later years of college to be a distant memory.  Anyway, I just played through Half Life 2 again two weekends ago, and I personally don't think the graphics have aged very well at all.   Everything is so blocky and static.  I guess, if you want to qualify it with, "for a game that came out in 2004", then you've got a point, but shit Bubble Bobble still looks great for a game that came out in 1990, so really that means nothing.  The gameplay on the other hand is still as much fun as the day it came out.  Slicing off a zombies head with a flying sawblade will NEVER get old. "
    Take a chill pill buddy. You're entitled to your opinion.

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