So EA has responded to the uproar of the Spore DRM saying:
"You can install the game on three computers - at your office, at home or for your family. What you can't do is make and distribute a thousand copies online," added Sughayer."
Meanwhile internet reports suggest that Spore is headed for becoming the most downloaded game of all time on Torrent sites, having apparently already soared past 500,000 downloads. Ouch.
Hilarious. I guess that Spore DRM really took care of the piracy issue.
Spore
Game » consists of 9 releases. Released Sep 07, 2008
Simulate the development and progression of an alien species as it evolves from a single-celled organism to a sapient level, rises up through various stages of civilization, and eventually becomes a space-faring species.
EA gets Pwned by Downloaders
"So EA has responded to the uproar of the Spore DRM saying:How can you possibly be happy about this? The more a game gets pirated, the less chance we have of seeing a sequel.
"You can install the game on three computers - at your office, at home or for your family. What you can't do is make and distribute a thousand copies online," added Sughayer."
Meanwhile internet reports suggest that Spore is headed for becoming the most downloaded game of all time on Torrent sites, having apparently already soared past 500,000 downloads. Ouch.
Hilarious. I guess that Spore DRM really took care of the piracy issue."
I don't plan on pirating, but I'm not going to shed a tear for EA over this. EA made its own bed. Illegal or not they should find a way that actually encourages people in a positive manner to buy it and not shaft people who do . It's even more ridiculous as there are DRM and digital distribution systems like Steam that work and people are happy use. If Spore were on Steam I'd have bought it.
"I don't plan on pirating, but I'm not going to shed a tear for EA over this. EA made its own bed. Illegal or not they should find a way that actually encourages people in a positive manner to buy it and not shaft people who do . It's even more ridiculous as there are DRM and digital distribution systems like Steam that work and people are happy use. If Spore were on Steam I'd have bought it.agreed
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"Terrell said:I honestly don't understand what the big deal is, especially with something like this (actually, SPECIFICALLY with something like this, because this model doesn't work for anything, but I think it works here). I mean, if it keeps casual pirates from making 35 copies of the game, than thats a good thing for both you and the people who make the game. It keeps the cost down, which helps you, unless you want to start paying $500 a game?"People who pirate games shouldn't be permitted to play games."People who employ DRM shouldn't be given money."
now the people who pirate and put it up and download off of torrent sites, yeah, they are probably going to do it anyway, but it is not easy to know how to do that stuff, and those people are going to sit up all night trying to figure that stuff out anyway, so ofcourse the DRM doesn't really affect them, but I still applaud EA for putting it in there. It's just crazy to me that people are complaining about how they only get 3 installs before they have to call (mind you, they don't have to pay to call or get more installs, they just want to make sure you aren't pirating). And honestly, a GREAT MAJORITY of the people who are complaining about multiple installs (1) don't have mulitple computers to install it on. (2) Would jus tplay the game through on their first install and that would be that, and wouldn't un-install it unless of an emergency, and (3) Even in an emergency, most of those people wouldn't re-install it anyway...
My opinion: I think people just like to complain about something whenever they can, and this just happens to be it. I mean I havent played Spore yet, so I can't directly comment on its quality, but it amazes me that people won't give this game a chance at all, simply based on the fact that it is trying to add in some BASIC security functions. DRM isn't going away, and people need to realize that it is actually a good thing.
"DRM isn't going away, and people need to realize that it is actually a good thing."I disagree. DRM is doing nothing more than punishing people who actually purchase games. It's silly. DRM does nothing because pirates will get the game anyway. There's no point in DRM and it drives some customers away. Although I am all for stopping piracy, DRM is not the solution, they need to come up with better methods to stop piracy.
Although, I do agree that most of the people are using excuses, a lot of people upgrade their PCs regularly, so only allowing three installs and having to take the time to call EA is a needless step that they have to go through.
I think Cliff Harris has the best idea to combat piracy:
As a result of what I found, I'm changing the way I make and sell my games. I already dropped some prices, and will keep future games cheaper, I abandoned copy-protection on all my games the next day, and resolved to work harder than ever before to make the best games that I can. I went from being demoralised and depressed by pirates to being motivated and encouraged by them. I asked them what they thought, then listened. Given the inability of big media companies to do either, I think I suddenly found my competitive advantage.
"People who employ DRM shouldn't be given money."I agree. That's why I never use iTunes. All the other sites I use let me keep the mp3's after I buy them, and do whatever. With iTunes, the one album I bought it wouldn't let me convert to mp3, so I burned it to a CD, then ripped it to mp3, then cancelled my iTunes account.
it was a good idea - drum sucks, but in terms of sales its the right thing to do, they'll more then likely remove it when they meet there Quota etc.....
"Demilich said:If I had known there would be a PC version so soon I'd have waited. Mods, better graphics, higher resolution, recording, ease of use and superior multiplayer are all reasons why I shouldn't have bought the PS3 version."ZeroCast said:Wasted your money ? Why ? What's wrong with the PS3 version ?""Next Up: GTA IV PC."I will have zero regrets pirating this seeing as I wasted money on the PS3 version."
"ZeroCast said:That and the game generally being under-par with its god-game complex the hype gave it - and the poor online multiplayer"Demilich said:If I had known there would be a PC version so soon I'd have waited. Mods, better graphics, higher resolution, recording, ease of use and superior multiplayer are all reasons why I shouldn't have bought the PS3 version.""ZeroCast said:Wasted your money ? Why ? What's wrong with the PS3 version ?""Next Up: GTA IV PC."I will have zero regrets pirating this seeing as I wasted money on the PS3 version."
"ZeroCast said:Add to that 18 GB of hard disk space ,optimization for PC controls & the Xbox 360 controller and you've got yourself PC Game Of The Year right there."Demilich said:If I had known there would be a PC version so soon I'd have waited. Mods, better graphics, higher resolution, recording, ease of use and superior multiplayer are all reasons why I shouldn't have bought the PS3 version.""ZeroCast said:Wasted your money ? Why ? What's wrong with the PS3 version ?""Next Up: GTA IV PC."I will have zero regrets pirating this seeing as I wasted money on the PS3 version."
Piracy will be solved once people make good games for good prices with scalable requirements and lots of content.
Look at Team Fortress 2 - the piracy rate must be like .001%. Because its a fucking good game for a good price with lots of content.
You're in a business, developers, and poor quality doesn't sell. Maybe on the consoles, but not on the PC.
Piracy is bad - but you can't stop it. Get it through your heads. More people will not pirate it if they have an incentive to buy the game.
Valve also understands that PC gamers love convenience. That's why Steam is so successful. DRM is horribly inconvenient. I've been using no CD cracks for games I legitimately bought for a decade simply because I shouldn't have to put a disc in every time I want to play something that's entirely on the hard drive.
"Piracy will be solved once people make good games for good prices with scalable requirements and lots of content.What makes you think those exact specifications are not the ones that will make the game pirated even more ?
Look at Team Fortress 2 - the piracy rate must be like .001%. Because its a fucking good game for a good price with lots of content.
You're in a business, developers, and poor quality doesn't sell. Maybe on the consoles, but not on the PC.
Piracy is bad - but you can't stop it. Get it through your heads. More people will not pirate it if they have an incentive to buy the game."
People who pirate games don't even bother with Mutliplayer because they know they won't be able to play online, but a game like COD4 is: accessible Online,has scalable requirements and it's a good game.
"Pirates can play online. Ever hear of cracked servers? They exist.Of course you can play on private servers, but with games like WoW you're paying to be part of the community.
There is NO game out there that cannot be pirated. Fact. World of Warcraft has been pirated a lot - but no one cares about it because they still have 15 million paying subscribers."
I bet there's people that downloaded the game 50 times just to prove a point.
I fully support the pirates in this case simply because stuff like DRM just doesn't not work and ends up punishing the consumer base the company should be targetting.
"Piracy will be solved once people make good games for good prices with scalable requirements and lots of content.....or because it's an online game.
Look at Team Fortress 2 - the piracy rate must be like .001%. Because its a fucking good game for a good price with lots of content.
You're in a business, developers, and poor quality doesn't sell. Maybe on the consoles, but not on the PC.
Piracy is bad - but you can't stop it. Get it through your heads. More people will not pirate it if they have an incentive to buy the game."
lol @ the first post..... 500,000 eh?
DRM sucks... plain and simple..... but this is the way things are going to go.... best security is online security really.... just look at all MMOs... when things are recorded and files sent to and from online servers to your machine, picking out ilegal copies becomes increasingly very easy heh... by the next generation of games im guessing almost all games will have some kind of online secure in place, like, some of the important content, you'll need to be online to get it.... and you'll have to have legit copies in order to get that...
thats my opinion anyway
"I bet there's people that downloaded the game 50 times just to prove a point.uh yes you can. You can manually add stuff from the sporepedia or you can torrent packs of creatures.IF you can't access created content, then you aren't getting the full game. That's like playing a demo, basically."
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