Unfinished: Overwatch 11/18/2015

@murdoc_: God I love twelve year olds like you making the same stupid comments since Warcraft 2.

I'm really happy Dan's excited. Overwatch looks incredible. What a cool game.

As a massive TF2 fan, I can't wait for this game.

Come on brad, moba's didn't invent mechanics like roles or abilities...

Just remember, none of that stuff existed in HoTS early on, either. Talent Trees, Skills, Abilities, Leveling Up; these were all different during Alpha/Beta. I would be quite surprised if Blizzard doesn't add some sort of leveling system, maybe to just superficially add weight to progression. With it being at $60/$40, though, I doubt we'll see abilities locked behind levels, though. Maybe a similar system where skin/mount color variants require a specific hero level, etc.

@saltykind: There have been indications of leveling systems and progression coming, but with all of the rewards being cosmetics, sprays, titles, etc and nothing relating to gameplay.

Also so far they've been claiming microtransactions will also be solely cosmetic.

I'm getting more of a Guild Wars vibe than MOBA-shooter from this.

Woah! This looks awesome. I can't wait to try out every character and single out my favorites. I don't even play MOBAs so maybe this is a good way to get into them, maybe?

Myself as well

How is this a MOBA?

Having burnt out on so much Monday night combat and TF2 I don't know if this is for me but damn it looks good, amazing designs and animation. I would definitely watch more of this

This is game is awesome, I mostly play as Reinhardt because I love his charge and the shield. To charge someone down a pit is always fun :3

game makes battleborn look like a huge pile of shit. They shouldn't of even bothered.

So... like they are obviously going to be selling lots of heroes and skins for this right? Everyone seems surprised that it's not f2p, but it seems like it is going for more of a best of both worlds approach.

$40 gets you a good bunch of heroes and they steadily release more for $5 each (or $10 if we're being honest, it's activison/blizzard after all ). Anyway, that's what I think they are going to do.

Can't wait to play, looks fun.

They don't mean that it's literally a MOBA, just that the big amount of "heroes" with different, unique abilities feels very MOBA-ish.

So this is built from the assets they developed for an aborted MMO, right? Man, looking at these designs I REALLY would have loved to try that MMO...

Looks soooo cool man I love the character design.

Just a comment on something Brad said about always spawning at the start, in the payload mode where you have to move the payload you have closer spawn points as you move it along.

This doesn't make much sense. I mean brad played poorly, but he had that whole talking thing to do.

The way the game should generally be played is with coordination and voice chat and the like. It works much, much better if everybody is working together on the objectives, and picking their heroes based off of what the other people are using. Should watch some other videos elsewhere of how the game is really played.

"I hope they don't try to explain the backstory"

meanwhile:

I have played Battleborn.... I do not wish to again. This however. Looks rad!

@koolaid: They will be selling skins but for now they are saying there will be no hero store. If they do add heroes (we know they likely will be) my guess is it will be in larger group expansion packs rather than the f2p hero store style. They have been pretty insistent that there wont be gameplay affecting microtransactions and have specifically said no individual heroes for sale.

I'm not sure why they're putting that out on consoles or for 60$. Everything about this screams TF2 and that game was no fun on a controller. It also only came into its own when it went F2P.

It seems Blizzard is just charging money for it because they can but it doesn't seem to come with anything you would want out of fully priced product.

That's a good point, Overwatch can become something great if they decide to keep working on it and stay in touch with the community.

To me it seems more like the worst of both worlds. Like "you now get to pay 40$ for what is obviously a game designed around F2P".

"Makes their controller rubmle" This means this actually has controller support on pc?

I'm not sure why he said that, because five minutes later he says there's no controller support on PC.

The PC deluxe-edition comes with all kinds of in-game rewards for the other Blizzard games... well shit... guess that's me shelling out an extra £15 then.

For those of you still keeping score after all these years: time to first Brad-death: 12 seconds.

Yeah, it's pretty scary.

Yeah, it's not like they launched Overwatch with a beautiful trailer for the story and recently announced there will be an animated short series produced for the game:

@pyrodactyl said:

Yeah this is how I feel, I feel like it's a product that will obviously go into the F2P model but of course they would say they have no plans of doing that up front to recoup some money back for having worked on titan. They also said they have no plans of adding new heroes but I also don't buy that. How long it'll be until they go F2P though... it's gonna be a long wait :(

Why do I get the feeling Brad imagines TF2 is the exact same game that was released in 2007?

Anyway, this looks fantastic and may be the game that finally replaces TF2 for me personally. I didn't even know about this until this QL, I probably got it confused with that awful effort by Gearbox.

This game looks awesome! Too bad Brad kinda sucks at it, it would have been nice to see some skilled gameplay that took advantage of the character abilities better and the verticality.

He's talking about Destiny.

As a fan of TF2, I'll likely get this game. It looks pretty and fun.

@landhawk: Still think that is true. Not saying they are doing badly, but wow is still kind of a crazy anomaly if you count it up.

not gonna drop full price on a soon-to-be-f2p shooter, not after Titanfall and Evolve taught me that a multiplayer only title at full price = dead in 6 months

it'll either be dead or f2p, so why regret paying in the first place?

So there's mostly no regenerating health... Mostly no aiming down sights... And probably no persistent player progression?

FYI, one of the builder/engineer characters can construct a teleporter. Sadly no one played her (Symmetra), which is shame because she's cool. The long travel time from the spawn to the objective is definitely a balance thing, which makes playing characters with movement abilities a better choice in those scenarios.

Some people still give Brad shit for not playing like a pro and not knowing everything about every video game immediately, but I gotta say he's gotten really good at talking coherently while playing a game.

Being a TF2 fanatic since beta, I am excited for this game despite my complete lack of faith in Blizzard's ability to properly balance it. Probably this is the closest to a TF3 we will ever see.

Im partial to the robot shaman thing.

@audiobusting: totally, i think people just do it out of reflex now and it's sad (kinda like how they'll praise anything vinny does without qualification).

Thanks brad for showing this off!

The fireball bar under the health bar shows how much you are 'on fire'. If you are doing good the bar fills up. The person on your team who is doing best will have flames around his/her/its portrait.

It's not just the champions and abilities that make for the MOBA comparison (and TF2 but its been so freaking long so im not gonna make a comparison here), it's the surprising amount of strategy that there is to this game. It's not just about the mechanics and kills, like in a MOBA.

Blizzard dev teams been playing matches against twitch streamer teams/groups and early on in the beta VERY rarely, if ever, did a twitch team beat, or hell, ever even contest the devs... and the devs mention why: this game is not just mechanics, those streamers have the mechanics down (many CS pros and all) but they failed on playing the map and that's how the bliz teams could dominate.

this game is heavy on strategy: how to play the champs, knowing which comps to play and the champ roles, which champs counter who, which champs are best in what maps/situations, map awareness (choke-points, sniping positions, attacking routes, defense positions), how to play the map and the objectives and so on.

Brad doesn't know it but the objectives are a HUGE part of this game, kills =/= wins, ur team has to know how to deliver/defend/capture the payload/objective to win the game. He talked about modes but there is no team death-match, the game (the devs talked about why there is less game modes in blizzcon panel) is to capture objectives and/or deliver/defend a payload.

The only MOBA element is the ult. This game is 99% Team fortress 3.

I know @danryckert said he hoped there wasn't any logic or reason behind this all, but I'm pretty pumped that the story seems to be something like a modern day G.I. Joe team.

Dan yells that this game looks "fucking cool" around a million times.... and he's right, it does!

@voidox: That sounds like Counter-Strike or any arena based FPS to me. Knowledge of the map in Quake, CS and TF2 are just as important as knowing the mechanics.

@l33t_haxor said:

So there's mostly no regenerating health... Mostly no aiming down sights... And probably no persistent player progression?

Feels good!

"Piss and vinegar". classic Dan