"See, all I think is that when most people ages 12-30 hear the word anime, they think of some Japanese cartoon with a very cult audience. When they think of video games, they don't think of it as nerdy because most of them have played some. And since they play them - their parents know about this, and they in turn don't see it as nerdy."
What can I say? It was a massive oversight on my part. I was thinking strictly of attitudes, something totally subjective. When Shadow brought up the absolutely phenomenal growth of the video game market...I had to reconsider.
Jayge said:
"The problem with going by economics is that anime/manga does not generally produce many profits. Most people bit torrent and watch episodes online, or on their TV, and do not fuel DVD sales or any actually measurable gauge."
If we weren't comparing Anime to one of the fastest growing entertainment markets on the planet, I would agree. Besides, bit torrent users are exactly the people that xruntime is talking about, the cult audience.
It's probably true that the conservative baby boomers consider video game players in the same category as adolescent boys and Star Trek conventions, but the nerd market cannot support the kind of numbers that the game market is raking in.
General Public changes where you live. In NYC (where I grew up) your considered "odd" if your a male teenager or young adult (20s) and you don't play video games. However in places like middle america where technology itself is almost non-existent they might consider someone a geek/nerd/whatever if they play video games.
Anime on the other hand. I watch it. I watch Bleach and when I was younger I watched Cowboy Bebop and Dragonball Z. I wouldn't call myself a fan (people that obsess over it). From what I notice here people really don't care if you watch it and they don't call you a geek/nerd just because you watch it. Like I said though it changes where you are.
Also I wouldn't compare video games to anime. Video games aren't like they were. Its a form of entertainment with a industry worth more then the movie industry. Making it the biggest form of Entertainment in America. Anime to put bluntly is just a form of a cartoon from japan thats usually has strong mature tones.
That's true. The people have spoken with their wallets.
If you're grading Anime and Video Games by the rubric of economics, then games wins hands down.
Maybe there is something to your, and xruntime's, position after all.
Straw man fallacy. Read my post again. I said that's what the GENERAL PUBLIC PERCEPTION is.
The general public perception of video games has distanced itself from the nerds and kids more so than anime has. That's what I'm saying, and if you don't believe it, so be it.
xruntime, I don't know you. You could be a 40 year old father of 3 for all I know. You're free to enjoy whatever it is you want. I wasn't trying to come up with a combination of words that would sway your feelings on anime.
...but I assure you. The general public is NOT saying: "Anime? That's for pimple faced kids and geeks" "Video games? That's a little less for kids and nerds." They just lump it all in one group with comic books, and Star Wars conventions.
Video games definitely do not that same perception [to the same extent] anymore. On the other hand, the general public perception of anime is that it's a childish cartoon and nerd hobby. At least in America, that's how it is.
I play games more or less for the gameplay. Video games often do have trivial themes, but anime, as a non-interactive media, has far more emphasis on this aspect.
Saying that cartoons are for kids, but video games are for adults is ludicrous.
Gameplay is irrelevant to the issue at hand. Tell FOX news that "gameplay" is what makes video games for adults. The general public's perception of video games AND video game forums are for kids and nerds. Guess what, bucko, that puts YOU squarely in the nerds and kids category.
Listen, I don't care what the hell you like to do on your freetime. It doesn't matter. However, I'm not going to let you take some kind of sophisticated "high ground" just because you want to distance yourself from the nerd nomenclature. You're a nerd just like the rest of us here.
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