benjaebe

I came here specifically to mention Tales from the Borderlands so I'm pretty happy OP took care of that already. 100% agreed.

Considering how toxic discussions of Hatred can get (just look at the Steam forums) I don't blame them. It's just a whole lot of extra moderation work.

@the_laughing_man said:

That's a step too far, someone burn these fuckers to the ground.

Really though, this is extremely disappointing since some people here (myself included) really put a lot of time into making the GB Wiki great. Hope the crew and CBSi get it taken care of.

Naughty Dog is really on top of their game with this one. Can't wait to play it in a few months.

OH LOOK THERE GOES CLICKBAIT KLEPEK AGAIN WITH HIS.....oh.

Hey, good article Patrick. Zombi U was an interesting game.

@Carousel said:

@benjaebe:

If someone talks about "slut shaming" one more time I'll bite their fucking fingers

I couldn't think of a better term unfortunately. Whatever it is, at the very least trying to dig up dirt on someone because of their appearance or something is unrelated to the conversation at hand and unnecessary.

@familyphotoshoot said:

@JasonR86: She put those pictures of herself out there on the Internet for the entire planet to see and then wants to turn around and cry sexism and misogyny over those statue. Do you honestly not see the hypocrisy?

Why does someones appearance, private life or clothing decisions invalidate their opinion? Patrick asked her opinion and she gave it, how she dresses or what she decides to do has no impact on it's validity. That's just slut shaming.

@whatisdelicious said:

@brendanpatrickhennessy said:

@whatisdelicious said:

@Emils_katt said:

Yeah Patrick, this was really unbalanced. You wouldn't do a story on racism and not ask the racist for his view on the matter, now would you? Because that is real journalism, apparently.

That would be journalism, dude. You get both sides to a story.

The idea that there are two equal and opposing sides that deserve equal weight on every issue is, if anything, the hallmark of bad journalism. People who think this article isn't journalism misunderstand the very concept.

So let's get an example of this then:

I knew a guy (Guy A) in college who was friends with Guy B, who at one point, put up a sign that said "SLAVERY REINSTATED, CATCH YOURSELF A STRONG ONE." The local news reported on it because it was deeply offensive to a lot of people, and mentioned Guy A's name but never talked to him. The whole town thought Guy A was the guy who put up the racist sign because nobody ever contacted him about it. People around town still think he's the guy who put up the sign.

So... what? Because the guy you're reporting on might be a racist, you decide not to get his side of the story? That's good journalism?

That example literally doesn't make sense in the context of your argument. It's negligent for them to not verify the facts, but lets say the article is about how it was deeply offensive they wouldn't necessarily find someone who DIDN'T find it offensive just to provide a "counter argument."

I'm all for discussions on this subject and everything, even if I think the reaction to the whole statue has been a bit overblown, but when people resort to personal attacks based on the appearance of those involved in the article it just kind of sums up their point entirely. You really aren't strengthening your argument.

@whatisdelicious said:

@Emils_katt said:

Yeah Patrick, this was really unbalanced. You wouldn't do a story on racism and not ask the racist for his view on the matter, now would you? Because that is real journalism, apparently.

That would be journalism, dude. You get both sides to a story.

No, I don't think that's necessarily true. This isn't a news story, first of all, so there are no objective facts. Patrick went out to get opinions from women in the game industry about this Dead Island thing and that's what he got and posted. It should be treated as an opinion piece more than anything, which is totally fine. There's no reason to get "both sides" to the story, nor does journalism require that you always get both sides to a story, especially when you're dealing with opinions and viewpoints.