@hoodcommando: That's what Subsistence is for.

If anything is going to make Dan choose the HD version it'll probably be framerate related. Which I suppose is fair, it's the biggest advantage the HD rerelease has over Subsistence. But to me the things they took out make it an unacceptable version.

I clicked HD like an idiot, before reading the actual differences :-(

I want to change my vote to Sub's!

I vote the originals. It would be nice to see Drews reactions to the series as it evolved.

I say play the HD editions, but get Drew to play some skateboarding/Ape Escape when he needs a break.

SUBS OR BUST.

Have they confirmed that they'll be playing more than just the first game? I know Dan would like to, but I was under the assumption that he was just trying to get Drew to dip his feet into the series and to see if he would be interested. I mean, if they play 2 and 3, does that mean they have to play 4, Peace Walker, Portable Ops, and so on?

@sunbrozak: He said on Gaf that they are playing the HD versions of 2 and 3. I highly doubt they'll play PW because Dan thinks it sucks and Portable Ops just sucks (also Kojima wasn't involved in Portable Ops).

Glad to see they're going HD. The framerate of the original MGS3 almost ruined the game for me.

Surprised by the responses now that I've seen all versions this last week.

The originals are noticably better. Those "small details" really add up and in the case of MGS2 it is a bit tragic, conidering what a tech marvel that game was when it came out, for it to be stripped down later.

It has to be as pure as possible. That's why when you want to play N64 games for example, the crew doesn't bust out an emulator to make it look better. Sure they've used a Retron5 because some older consoles in working condition are becoming harder and harder to find. But the Retron5 doesn't upscale anything to make things look better. It gives you some options for that but never use them.

Like others have said, it has to be in its original form, without add-ons, DLC, and HD remakes.

Is Guy Savage the dream he can have after being captured? If so, it's fucking terrible that it isn't included in the HD version. One hell of a memorable sequence.

@teoball: That kinda pisses me off right there, seems really lazy for them to leave that.

I will not allow Drew and Dan to miss out on Snake vs Monkey

Considering they'll play through the story once and that's it - absolutely the HD versions. If they really wanna dabble with the easter eggs and unlockables, just bring in a Subsistence version as well with an advanced savegame on a memory card and go crazy from there.

It was prettttttty heavily hinted in the latest Demo Derby that the HD version is the one they want to go for.

If the HD remakes were just the originals running in HD, I'd be 100% for em, but if they omit content it's hard to argue with the originals.

I have played all of the main Metal Gear Solid games (1-4). I have only ever played 1 in the form of Twin Snakes. :O

Same here. Twin Snakes is not a bad game. The newer mechanics make the game less of a challenge in some respects, like the first-person aiming and being able to hang on and drop from ledges, but I'd say that it's still an improvement over the original PS1 version.

Play Substance on PS2 cause Skateboarding. 3 It doesn't really matter, but I'd prefer something in 4:3 so we could see Dan and Drew on the sides of the screen without covering the actual game.

@melvargh: The terrible, ill-fitting cutscenes alone are already reason enough to flush it down the toilet. Leave that stuff in Devil May Cry 3 where it belongs.

If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure that MGS2 Substance is the same exact game as the original release (Sons of Liberty), the single player is untouched I think. Though, I think they might have added Euro difficulty, but the additions were all extras along with VR Missions. And the HD Collection is just Substance with an HD makeover.

And it's completely unfair to ask anybody to have to play Snake Eater with that fixed camera. Subsistence including the new camera is the best way to play that game. That alone disqualifies the original Snake Eater release for me. The fixed camera caused more headaches than it was worth in the original release.

HD Collection is the way to go with Snake Eater as well, since it's just Subsistence with an HD makeover. And truthfully, that game looks amazingly beautiful as well with the HD makeover. I thought it was amazing how good a game that old wound up looking in the HD Collection.

@firecracker22: Looking at what was lost from Subsistence in the transition to HD I would disagree with the HD collection being the way to go.

HD for sure, just finished 2 again on the collection last week, and i'm at The Fury in 3 and I can't tell any differences that would matter. But I would like Drew to play 3 in the original fixed camera, the free camera makes the game feel pretty different in key ways. Also considering he's playing the psn version of MGS1 there's no real expectation of complete purity in this video series.

What Drew doesn't know won't hurt him. Also, how would anyone feel about Dan and Drew doing Peace Walker co-op?

The PS2 version (does not matter which) - otherwise GB might just as well play retro games on emulators with smoothing filters.

Can anyone tell me how close to the end Drew and Dan are to the first one? Want to watch it before I jump into the HD collection for myself as I don't feel I can go back and play it.

Thanks.

@supersambo: 2 episodes left. Maybe 3.

@supersambo: They're coming right up on the end. The next episode should be the finale.

With how many times they've rereleased the HD versions I'd expect them to be at least faithful to the originals :/

I say just show off the omitted content in an extra episode.

As much lore as Peacewalker adds I personally think it's a little too grindy to be played on a segment like this. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but it requires resource collection which in turn means repeating some missions over and over. It's not a straight A-to-B type of game like the rest of the series.

Yeah, I was looking at some of the things posted a few pages ago. But, I dunno man...it really does look beautiful in that HD Collection. I could be convinced on MGS2, though.

I do think we can all agree on the original Snake Eater not being the one to go with, because of that fixed camera. Subsistence or HD Collection are the only two options.

Yeah, I agree. Peace Walker is such a different MGS games, and is broken up in bite sized chunks (it was, after all, originally a PSP game) that it might not hold up as well to something like this. The design of the game is very unlike any of the console MGS games.

@firecracker22: Oh yeah definitely Subsistence. That being said I loved the original MGS3 as well and finished the game no problem. But the Subsistence release is just phenomenal. So much content + that camera.

@octaslash: @corevi: Thanks for the info!

simple answer, any version with "Guy Savage", right stick camera controls and the J Idols are clearer in the original PS2 low quality texture work. I wish there was an explanation of that one idol fuzzy texture in the Grozny Grad locker room.

I'm gonna throw this out there, 3ds does have crotch walk, and you can get in closer on enemies without using the dpad to walk ;)

I played the ever living shit out of the original Sons of Liberty, so I'd love to see a different version of it. It would be cool to see what has changed. But I'm not complaining either way. I'm just super excited to see it.

In the case of MGS3, I think fps trumps all extra content and other misfortunes; it'll help the actual playing of the game.

@firecracker22: Despite this, Peace Walker is still detrimental to the story. Drew has to play it at some point even if it's not on Metal Gear Scanlon. And if it is they can take liberties and cut-out/fast-forward through anything that's too grindy.

Unless the HD versions are straight broken, I say they play the most recent and best performing one. I'm sure any cut stuff and missing things will be brought up by Dan as "a fun easter egg". Just like watching Meryl strip in MGS1.