As long as someone tells Drew that sometimes the original camera works better in certain rooms, they can play whatever version. That 3D camera can often make shit way harder than it seems at first. The OG one is much higher up and can "see through walls" in a way the new camera can't.

HD. I played a couple of hours of 2 and 3 and didn't really notice any problems. When the differences are listed side by side they seem pretty noticeable, but they don't change those games in any meaningful way. There seems to be so much talk of Drew finishing later games in the series... He hasn't even finished the first yet!

All originals. No remasters.

SNAKEBOARDING!

Yeah same here. I voted for the HD collection before realizing this bullshit. Also 16:9 would be a downgrade if we don't get to see the Dan/Drew cams on each side.

HD.

Check out the other stuff in the updated PS2 versions, sure. But the main game should be played using the HD versions.

That's irritating, I was going to say you really need to spoiler tag the OP for people who are watching this series the first time.

I mean, I would like to understand more what the differences are, but I also want to experience the stories unspoilt!

Also Dan you gotta make Drew look at some of the Secret Theatre afterwards. A more perfect example of Kojima's hilarious nature there has never been.

Dat Quick Ending.

The only spoiler in there is that Big Boss loses an eye which isn't really a spoiler anymore since he's had an eyepatch on in all the promo material for PW and MGS5.

Why did they remove the Snake's Nightmare thing?

Because it ran on a completely different engine that wasn't worth the effort to get working on PS360.

I really like the HD collection versions, For capturing etc it would probably be easier for them on the PS3.

Of the "missing" content from the HD Collection, Guy Savage is the one I'd really like to see them react to and talk about. The Mini stuff is interesting and cool, but not really that important and they would probably only spend 5 minutes messing around with them anyway.

I would be fine with the PS2 versions of Substance and Subsistence.

I don't understand the "I don't want SD video" line, it makes no sense. They are playing the PSX version of Metal Gear Solid 1 as well (even if they are playing it on a PS3) and it looks great.

MGS1 - PSX version

MGS2 Substance - PS2 version (You bet your ass there will be skating.)

MGS3 Subsistence - PS2 version (It looks like they cut a whole bunch of awesome stuff out of the HD version.)

MGS4 - PS3 version

For practical reasons I could see them playing Peace Walker on a console. (if they even play it at all)

Ground Zeroes and MGSV on current gen consoles

Revengeance on PC

The reason for playing the original PS1 MGS is purely because the remake is so different. The HD remakes of 2 and 3 are pretty good representations of what those games are, the differences are too minor to worry about in my opinion.

I think it's because there's no other option. Right now, it's a choice between the original PSX Metal Gear Solid or the Gamecube The Twins Snakes. But for Sons of Liberty and Snake Eater, there are enhanced versions of these that remain mostly true to its original forms. In that sense, to many people, it might not make sense for Drew and Dan to choose the PS2 versions of these two games over the PS3 and 360 versions.

@sungahymn:

3: HD Collection - PS3/360

• - Minor graphical inaccuracies, mainly relating to 2D effects like lightning
• - Minor gameplay inaccuracies
• - Snake Eater theme is several seconds out of sync with the visuals during the titlecard sequence
• - Snake always has an eyepatch on the titlescreen, rather than it being added after losing his eye in the story
• - Snake vs Monkey minigame and unlockables removed
• - Guy Savage (Snake's Nightmare) easter egg and related cutscenes/radio calls removed
• - Boss Rush removed
• - Secret Theater removed

This is not "minor" anymore, it's bad. As for MGS1, it also had a PC release. I would never recommend The Twin Snakes to anyone unless they have the WORST taste imaginable (like @mooseymcman).

@hassun: Why thank you for your kind words, kind sir.

Man after seeing that clip of the final confrontation in MGS3 HD (plus some of the differences posted earlier), not only do I wish I could change my vote from HD to SD, I wish I could refund my purchase of the HD collection on PSN recently. I had no idea there'd be such...weird stuff going on, I thought it'd just be pretty.

@hassun: In the end, I think it'll all depend on whether Drew and Dan wants the purest experience possible or simply superior graphics. People like me lean toward the latter because we always want better pictures in front of us. For you, the experience and the nostalgia of the original (and the Substance and Subsistence versions) are a large part of your enjoyment for these games.

I wonder which one they'll pick though.

@mooseymcman: I'm pretty sure that breaks some ethics rules or something. Abuse of power!

@sungahymn: Nostalgia has pretty much 0 effect on me. The changes they made to the actual game are just too severe. The stream itself will still be HD as well. Just like it is now. And it will look fine.

Gameplay > Graphics all day every day.

@hassun: I haven't the slightest clue as to what you are talking about, kind sir. All I know is that Twin Snakes is the true and best way to experience Metal Gear Solid, just like how the HD versions of MGS2 and MGS3 are probably the ideal ways to play those games too.

Actually, Twin Snakes should get an HD re-release too. I'd buy that on Wii U.

I feel like I shouldn't like that song NEARLY as much as I do. But goddammit, I love that remix so much.

In fact I think we should make sure @danryckert knows about all these changes they made to the HD versions of MGS2 and MGS3. I suspect that, if he's aware of them, he will wholeheartedly choose the PS2 versions of Substance and Subsistence.

Well the effort that would go into setting up a PS2 just makes it seem not worth it just so that the visuals look as originally intended. It looks like the main loss is the extra mini-games which I guess is a shame but personally I would prefer if they just played each of the core games. If they go for the PS2 versions it would be insane if they didn't play Subsistence over vanilla Snake Eater.

While I get people want him to experience this like many did back in the day, the fact is that this isn't 2001 it's 2014, and it will likely be 2015 by the time they make it all the way to Snake Eater. The HD collection, at least for me, let me experience the games in a way that let me enjoy them without dealing with a lot of the negatives. By having the game look good and run well, I could focus on experiencing the actual game, instead of being distracted by graphical problems. And I was overjoyed when I found I could go back with circle and confirm with X. I have to say that HD is the way to go.

most of the negatives for the HD collection are very trivial. Go for the HD collection, there's nothing at all wrong with it.

Dan's confirmed on NeoGAF that they're going to play the HD Collection.

:(

S'alright. You can still slowly put your gun down using the analogue face buttons on a dual shock 3.

Hey, on the plus side - MGScanlon 2 & 3 are 100% happening!

@shindig: Yeah but you can't do this on a Dual Shock 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5XVH6i3_r0

@joe423: I am pretty excited about that. In the end the differences amount to a fraction of the total series length, but I really would have enjoyed Drew's surprise when a straight up different game came up when he loaded his save.

I swear you can do it on the DS3 but the biting point is weirder. I did it once.

I think you misread my post.

I sure did. I've started on 2 and forgot about the 320 page essay you can read on Shadow Moses. And a review of said essay.

Kojima never wanted out of this series, did he?

The HD versions also don't have the pressure sensitive face buttons, which MGS2/3 use for various things (Gently releasing the Square button allowing you to put down your weapon without firing comes to mind).

The HD version doesn't feature the Guy Savage sequence from MGS3.

No option for the OG Xbox version? LOL

@eder: Xbox port of MGS2, then the 3DS version of MGS3. And then instead of MGS4 they play that iPhone touch shooter that retells the MGS4 story through text screens.

What? Yes they do.

Either the HD versions of Substance/Subsistence. In the case of MGS3 it definitely needs to be Subsistence/HD.

The PS2 versions look better on a CRT television than the HD versions do on a HDTV, IMO, so my choice would be Substance/Subsistence for the PS2 on a CRT.

Why was the dream sequence even removed? I haven't played it but that sounds really pointless.

Wow I never even realized there were changes like this. I played all these for the first time in the Legacy Collection.

That skateboarding/Snake vs Monkey stuff looks crazy as hell.

None of the features removed or the various visual differences are that dramatic so I'm absolutely fine with the HD versions.

HD Collection, they will really only play the main game and those are great at that. Also, Substance & Subsistence no matter what. And the HD versions look sharper but it is not a Twin Snakes scenario, its just a port with some cleaned up graphics.

I went back and played through 2&3 in the HD Collection last year and they were fantastic. I really hope they do go on and play at least MGS2 -- Robot Cambell blew my mind the first time I saw it. It was only last year when I went back solely to focus on the story that I came to some sort of understanding as to what had been going on.

WHAT. Snakes nightmare and the secret theater are gone in the he version? That's a fucking travesty. Those were some of my favorite extras ever.

@dezztroy: The Xbox 360 doesn't have analog buttons so that version certainly doesn't. Reading about it, though, it appears they came up with alternate controls so it's all OK.

I doubt that very much. I don't think he will care at all.

HD is the way to go. MGS 3 must definitely not be played in its original form, the over head camera is a buzzkill.

@mooseymcman: NOPE. Original MGS.