@AhmadMetallic: why don't you crowdfund things that actually have a chance of coming out?

I'd rather put down $50 on a hand of Black Jack, then at least you've got a chance of seeing a return, and the wait wouldn't be nearly as long or painful.

This is absolutely pathetic. 3D Realms completely and utterly screwed the pooch on DNF so hard there's not a publisher in this world that will ever trust them with a penny ever, ever again. So instead, they're now trying to skip the middleman and screw consumers out of their cash directly.

This company is dead. If there's anybody actually left working there, they should be making every effort to move on to greener pastures. I have no doubt 3D Realms have/had actual talent working under them, but at this point they are never going to be financially successful again. Just nail the coffin shut, sell all the IP and get the people somewhere they can actually finish/release games.

@Animasta said:

@AhmadMetallic: why don't you crowdfund things that actually have a chance of coming out?

I didn't realize they had a track record of keeping unfinished games in limbo. I remember playing the first Duke Nukem before I learned to speak, then when the DOOM craze hit I played that and some Duke Nukem 3D, then a few years later I played Max Payne which without 3D's support probably would've never been finished.

What games by them other than DNF took forever to come out (or they never finished)? Or are we judging and resenting them solely based on their DNF failure?

2K invested in 3D Realms, and it worked out real good for them. They are the absolute last studio to ask for crowd funding for a game, considering they haven't made anything worth a damn in 16 years.

lmao

If I were a publisher I wouldn't put money behind a 3D Realms game after the Duke Nukem Forever debacle. So why would I want to do that with my own money?

@AhmadMetallic: Here's the thing: The developer who made most of DNF are the 3D Realms of the present and not the one who lives in your childhood memories. What do you think, how out of shape are they, working on a game for more than a decade?

@kerikxi said:

This is absolutely pathetic. 3D Realms completely and utterly screwed the pooch on DNF so hard there's not a publisher in this world that will ever trust them with a penny ever, ever again. So instead, they're now trying to skip the middleman and screw consumers out of their cash directly.

Death to middlemen! I demand the opportunity to personally squander my cash on a proven failure!

@AlexanderSheen said:

@AhmadMetallic: Here's the thing: The developer who made most of DNF are the 3D Realms of the present and not the one who lives in your childhood memories. What do you think, how out of shape are they, working on a game for more than a decade?

Is this something that could be fixed with a training montage?

@aceofspudz: I'm sure Strauss Zelnick approves of this.

in other news, i'm digging a hole right through the center of the earth, directly into china. If you'd like to fund this endeavor please send me your money. I'm 99.9% sure i'll be successful in this.

Why is this an article about a thing a company is doing on a website without a link to that thing the company is doing on that website? You tell us about them having this on Gambitious but never actually link to the Gambitious page where it is? Why?

Ahahaha, ahahaha. Good one 3D Realms, thats pure comedy. You expect people to invest in your next game when your last game was in development for 15 years and was taken off of you to finish? You are the least investable studio on the planet, investors money would be better sloshing around in poker tournaments, the odds of winning are better.

@aceofspudz: It has to be a really, REALLY good montage. Like the Rocky montage, but instead of boxing, it's about game developing.

Even though my initia response was ire, I'm still not sure if 3D Realms should be written off entirely for the fiasco of Duke. That said, there's no way I'd toss money at this thing unless it was done. You can't have that track record and expect any sort of trust that an actual game will come of this, and its quality is up in the air.

Wasn't the issue with Forever largely in part a complete lack of faith and capital from their partners?

@AlexanderSheen said:

@AhmadMetallic: Here's the thing: The developer who made most of DNF are the 3D Realms of the present and not the one who lives in your childhood memories. What do you think, how out of shape are they, working on a game for more than a decade?

Since I rarely keep up with personnel changes in game studios, I didn't realize this. Is that common knowledge? Cause in that case, I'll pass!

Coming soon in 2032.

After what they pulled with Duke Nukem Forever, I'm surprised anyone would give them money.

No.

Sorry, 3D Realms, but no.

Oh the hilarity!

I like this solely for what will have to be the greatest kickstarter pitch video ever.

"Hey guys, we're 3D Realms, the guy's whooo...well, um, we're the guys who took all of 2K's money and left them with garbage. Money please?"

I will give 3D realms a second try if they release it in a fair enough time.

I'm somewhat optimistic about this, if not for the small issue that the entire 3D Realms staff was laid off in 2009. Who exactly is this iteration of the studio? Kinda sounds like the recent Interplay/Black Isle thing to me.

They've got balls of steel.

Who in their right mind would give 3D realms a fucking dollar? 14 year development cycle that results in nothing and they want their "fans" to fund their next game? Isn't 2K straight up suing them for fraud? And now they want to crowdfund something? I'd sooner back Milli Vanilli's comback album.

What's next, a kick starter for the Phantom?

Hey 3D Realms, why don't you go fuck off instead? You lazy turds don't deserve to ever work in this industry again.

Well, it's obvious the gaming community is a little bit skeptical, with good reason.

@jerseyscum: serious. this is pretty dumb.

After Duke, I think everyone lost faith.

Didn't they shut down? Or is it like a one man company at this point, George just keeping the name alive? Also didn't they decide to use Apogee instead?

3d realms NO MORE

isn't that the same plot line as the happening?

@jerseyscum said:

Yeah. Like any sane person would trust then with a goddamn cent.

This, about a million times and for twelve years.

By the time this game comes out, will they even remember the folks who funded the kickstarter? Hell, will those who put money into the kickstarter even remember that this project even existed?

Anyone stupid enough to trust 3D Realms with their money deserves to lose it.

So a developer that pissed away money for 14 years developing a shit game wants gamers to give them some more out of the kindness of their heart [presumably since no publisher or other funders trusts them]? SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.

@chrissedoff said:

They've got balls of steel.

They're here to kickstart and chew bubble gum, and they're all out of gum.

It's somewhat disgusting to me that 3D Realms, of all companies, tries to get on the Kickstarter bandwagon. It may look good and the people actually responsible for making the actual game may be ambitious with a clear goal in mind, but this sounds like an absolute PR disaster.

Recoil has a lot of great talent and I would love to see this dream project of theirs finally see the light of day.

@Cowman said:

@chrissedoff said:

They've got balls of steel.

They're here to kickstart and chew bubble gum, and they're all out of gum.

Hmmm...the OTHER kick starter

BAHAHAHAHA 3D REALMS. BAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mists of Panderia just came out.

George Broussard and co might need to push back the release date a bit...

I think Kickstarters are a great idea for getting certain games made. Wasteland 2, Project Eternity and Broken Sword 5 are games that would never get made these days, and if they were, the publishers would demand changes for "mass appeal". But they work, because they're types of games that people just don't make any more and are from developers with a reputation for making quality games.

3D Realms haven't done anything good since Duke 3D and their last game was a mess (both in the internal production and finished game) and it's an FPS. Do we need more FPS? Does it really need to be crowd funded? Chances are they're doing this because no publisher would trust them and I find it rather insulting that they expect gamers to get behind this.

Are there even enoug people left that trust these guys to actually finish a game?

Ive backed a fair few kickstarters in my time but i wouldnt touch a 3D Realms project no matter how promising it looks. They have already proven that they can squander millions of dollars and have little to show for it. Why anyone would throw any cash at them is beyond me...

Do not give these people money.

@isomeri said:

Recoil has a lot of great talent and I would love to see this dream project of theirs finally see the light of day.

But this isn't necessarily Recoil developing. All the details so far say that an unannounced developer is working on it. If it was them, I'm sure 3d Realms would be a bit more up front about it.

Now you can invest your own money in the team that didn't bring you Duke Nukem Forever!