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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 130

Scott Benson joins us to talk about Night in the Woods, Taylor Swift, and how weird New Jersey is. We also have some fresh thoughts on Wolfenstein II, Mario Odyssey, and Dream Daddy! OH, and the news!

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Nov. 17 2017

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Vinny is right and Damien is the best dad in Dream Daddy. Damien > Robert > Craig > Mat > Hugo > Robert > Brian.

(Hugo is so low because I can't tolerate his moustache.)

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what are you guys talking about with a marvel roadmap through 2028? They haven't revealed much of anything past Infinity War.

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Made 8 years ago, god bless vidja games.

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Wasn't David Warner in The Omen?

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Ilana Glazer is definitely the right choice for Abby. Abby has on numerous occasions reminded me of Glazer. They have a similar, quirky sense of humor and the wild, curly hair.

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the hits

Reggie Fuck em

Alex played by the guy from Powder

Soundtrack: Email Email performed by Dan Rykert

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I played through Madden Longshot too. I had heard some good things about and just wanted to say it's fuckin horrible.

It's 3+ hours of cutscenes, shitty quick time events, and casual racism (hey! I'm a black quarterback who isn't smart enough to learn the playbook! Let me enlist the help of my white friend and dumb down the plays so that I can learn them!). You barely play any actual football during it and any football that you do play doesn't resemble the actual football that you play in every other madden mode (you can't control the playcall, can't audible, can't scramble etc).

Also, the endings suck. If you get drafted, your friend does not and vice versa. I beat Marino and won 21-0 in both 7 on 7s, completed all five challenges at the end and my buddy Cole had something like 250 yards and 3 tds in them. I finished with A- potential and a score of 8.9. Then I got drafted in the 7th (last) round and my friend did not. What a crock of shit.

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I typically don't care about spoilers but can you please stop spoiling Mario Odyssey its the biggest game this year and lots of us have not played it yet. Between last week with the final world and this week with the costumes. At least do a warning or something if you are. There isn't much to Mario besides the gameplay and the charm.

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There's been enough data collected to show this game is astronomically grindy to get all the heroes (in addition to other in-game perks) that give you significant advantages. This game was clearly calibrated toward the 'whale' economy

If you have to implement 'gacha'/slot-machine mechanics into your game to drive monetisation, then that raises red flags for me that the creator cannot stand behind their content without having to employ predatory skinner-box-like mechanics to make money via addiction. Hell, the fact that many games are reluctant to even show the drop-rate should raise red flags for everyone. The resistance to even do that simple change should be a pretty insidious red flag for anyone.

Heck there's already a way to do this while respecting the customer's time and mind - Titanfall 2 already figured this out:

  • All premium/paid-for content is cosmetic only; maps, modes and gameplay items are provided as free updates to ensure balance and prevent community splitting
  • There is no lootbox/RNG system - all premium items can be purchased directly i.e. you can buy exactly the skins/taunts/decals you want without the exploitative gambling shit that lootboxes encourage

Battlefront 2's microtransaction sytem was hardly the best but the impact of the 'pay to win' was overblown. I've played all during the trial and never felt I was at a disadvantage due to cards. I was at a disadvantage due to going in like John Wick and trying to take down an entire team by myself. Good players trump starcards. Hopefully that they've changed it more people give it a chance because it's a really fun game.

I'm no fan of loot boxes but I do understand their implementation. Games cost 60 bucks yeah but most people are in the 'wait for a sale' mode due to having so much to play or whatever other reason. These companies have to find ways to make continued income otherwise the medium dies. Sure budgets need to drop but in that so do our expectations on graphics because that is the most costly part of development. And again, I'm not arguing for corporate welfare (F em and their bought tax breaks) but just understanding the business of games. Even CD Projekt Red has hinted at the inclusion of something like this in Cyberpunk to help make it more of a financial success. Whether they are 'gambling' or not is a whole other discussion.

There's a fallacy of 'just make good games' but we see good games bomb all the time. It's so hard to gauge what will or won't be a financial success right out of the gate. It isn't as simple as 'good games.'

To end the my thoughts (I'm proctoring an exam and bored hence the length), I've been gaming for 25 years and love it and don't want it to disappear. I understand things change and business practices do as well. I have also never paid for a loot box and don't ever plan on it. I also don't want to get ripped off or screwed over by companies. As long as gamers are vocal but mature and reasonable, we can help make sure companies stay to the fine line.

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Very cool to hear Scott in this.

I heard on the Bombcast a while back that the highest rated game adaptation (at least on Rotten Tomatoes) was that 4-episode CastleVania animated series on Netflix. I have yet to enjoy a live action game adaptation. If someone like Lord & Miller did a Mario movie, I'd be all for it.

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@cvagts: I stopped after they mentioned the end of Mario is on the freaking moon! I would imagine so since the "statute of limitations" is apparently like 3 weeks for Dan.

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@captubaplayer: Unlike Amazon, who changed their Prime 20% off discount to only apply to pre-orders.

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scott has such amazing chemistry with the beast crew. this episode was great

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Halo Forward Unto Dawn was a perfectly ok movie. Probably the best video game movie I've seen

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I finally realized Dan asking every question that pops up in his head on a podcast or video saves him time from going down Wikipedia rabbit holes. Kind of like getting through college without going to class, only slightly less infuriating.

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I was really bummed out by all the Mario Odyssey spoilers in this episode. I would have really liked to experience a lot of that stuff myself :(

Dan was talking about us being past the 'statute of limitations'...the game has only been out for a few weeks!! Not all of us have the time to get to the end of a game so quickly ffs. Real bummer guys.

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I miss when spoilers meant avoid talking about story and not avoid talking about anything that happens at all.

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I'm going to play Night in the Woods!

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Hate to break it to that one duder but that is not the only reason ISPs advertise speeds in megabits per second rather than megabytes.

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Thought regarding data bit vs byte stuff: In a technical sense, it might be true that bits are actually used in physical line. But this doesn't explain why the company's marketing team uses them as the primary focus when the lay person does not really relate to them.

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I skipped ahead when they start with Mario, in the Goty talk we are aware of everything Will be spoiled but here just mention a World with no warning was unfortunate. Still sure there Will be plenty of fun things to discover though :) but yeah the spoiler handling with Wolfenstein 2 was better handled.

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STEEL BITS DON'T MELT!

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Can't believe throughout all the fan-art talk no one mentioned my Night at the Bomb art I made a while back.

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@humanity: Can't believe no one suggested Paul Giammati play Alex for the GB movie!