@onemanarmyy said:
It always fascinates me how a guy like Jordan Peterson urges people to develop their moral compass around the bible's teachings because he believes that book tells us how we should behave, but then lashes out against those that lend an ear to the most vulnerable ones in society. Wasn't Jesus in his copy of the bible?
If John leads a happier life as Sarah, and makes the difficult step to come out as transgender and live that way , i don't see how you can have anything but respect for that decision. Refusing to accept this and placing the individual urge for absolute freedom of speech above treating your neighbors with respect is not christian at all. I read that his mantra is 'life is suffering' and we should just accept that, but i don't see why that has to be the meaning of life for everyone. It comes across like he's playing to an audience of people that are in a rut and are looking for a voice to listen to. I'm sure that religion can be of use in this case, but the world at large doesn't need to adhere to these same christian values. I don't need religion to have a working moral compass.
The problem with all those youtube links is that i want to keep my youtube functional so i can't click on them.
On topic: I enjoyed Jade's posts quite a bit. I've been wondering what's up with tropes before, and how to write a good story without overusing tropes that are so prevalent because they're so immediatly relateable. The death of a loved one is such a powerful event that it makes sense why it's so often the fuel that drives a character to go through this journey. Personally i don't watch all that much movies or series so i'm easily propelled forwards by a story, but when you watch over 300 movies per year and you keep seeing the same story play out across again and again, i can see how annoying it gets.
Short of turning this into a discussion about Jordan Peterson, I'll just say that that isn't really what he talks about at all. In fact there a lot of videos where he has transgendered folks who agree with him on what he discusses. And for you to criticize what you think he supposedly talks about without actually watching a youtube video and listening to it in an open mind is kind of weird. You criticize but don't actually know what you're criticizing because you're afraid he'll what, pollute your youtube recommendations?
The entire reason he became well known or controversial in the first place was that he didn't like the idea that Canadian law was threatening to treat not calling someone their preferred pronoun as a criminal act. It wasn't that he had ever refused or would ever refuse to respect anyone enough to call them what they preferred to be called, but the law was so unclear about what the boundaries were, that putting something like that into criminal law was an extremely slippery slope. An example of how it was a slippery slope is, you can ask any number of different people what they feel is their gender or how many genders they think exist: some people say two, but I have heard claims as far as 80 genders. Eighty. Even divorcing the idea of gender biology from the idea of gender identity, how would you possibly enforce a law when no one has any definite answer on how many genders exist, and how you need to refer to any of them in terms of the singular, plural etc.. The idea that someone could potentially get in trouble with the law because someone else says they identify as a wolf and their preferred pronouns are wim and wam is a bit ludicrous. For something to be put forth as law, there needs to be a level of common sense and self evidence, and without clear delineated rules, you can't really have the threat of criminal punishment.
Anyways, regarding your point that was actually on topic, you're saying exactly what I have said multiple times in this thread: the pain of losing someone whether a parent, sibling, friend etc... is such a universal emotion that most everyone can relate to it. So it's a trope that will always be used as a motivation for whomever the protagonist is for ages to come. If there is something wrong with the trope, or if a certain piece of fiction handles it very poorly, I can see how it might be the subject of criticism. I just don't think that the trope was poorly used in God of War.
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