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@apewins: You can't have it both ways but what's wild is that apparently nobody actually thought this through prior to the games being listed. This is basic stuff and Sony is a multi billion dollar corporation.

I'd guess that some of the EU non entry has to do with local regulations, language, and size of the market. Some of those countries are so small it may not be worth the hassle to set up whatever infrastructure you need to run there.

@allthedinos: I actually meant that the people who use the Amico Reddit to hate on it are like Steelers fans reliving their glory days. They rehash things that Tommy said and old AtariAge beef like Steelers fans laughing at salty Seahawks fans in the Super Bowl victory, and go back over Intellivision's failures like watching their team sack a hated enemy quarterback.

There are comparisons to be made to Amico fans too. But they are hardcore cultists and all their former glories are imaginary.

@imunbeatable80: NO SPOILERS! If it's a really good game it can't be the greatest game. You need to tag that! Flagged and reported!

@chamurai: Have I ever played Guess the Game in the middle of the night after getting up to pee and right before going back to sleep? HOW DARE YOU ASK ME THAT?

Hypothetically if that had happened how well would I have performed under those circumstances?

You're the Grandmaster Guesser. You figure it out.

Not sure I am best served by doing these before coffee.

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I think that Sony should drop the PSN requirement at least for those countries, or expand access.

That being said, what's truly baffling here is that they apparently didn't plan for this.

THEY BUILT THEIR PC PLAN WITHOUT NOTICING THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK IN 170 COUNTRIES!

This isn't like "oh actually we can't launch this game in a couple small territories because it would need to be censored" this is "hey you know the majority of the countries in the world? They don't have a required service to play this. Is that something we should have thought through ahead of time?"

Yes. Yes it is.

It's unclear what you mean by "this" here.

Selling a lot of games? That's definitely the future they envision.

A hybrid system where they're a platform holder but some of their games go on other systems and do well there? They've already been doing that to some degree (Minecraft and its spin offs, Activision Blizzard games, Ori) and I think they probably will continue and expand that under the current circumstances. They may keep some games console exclusive, at least for a time, but games that could benefit from it will be multiplats.

Becoming a true third party for all their games? It's probably not what they envision but it seems like there's a good chance of it happening.

ETA: Can we all just take a moment to enjoy the fact that Skull & Bones flopped and now a very old pirate game that was probably significantly cheaper to make is an enormous success immediately after?

@imunbeatable80: I'm sure that they are all games you were interested in at some point, but let me quote a friend of your wife's here:

I realize that I am extremely easy to market to when it comes to video games. If a game has turn based action, grids to move around in, and contains light RPG mechanics, consider me there. In fact, the game we are talking about today "All Walls Must Fall" has the phrase "A tech-noir tactics game" on their title screen and that was enough to make me consider a purchase for an indie title. Should I have seen some of the red flags (no screenshots of actual game footage, only reviews are from their alpha/beta, touting club music as a positive), but I still downloaded it and played the game because it is a cheap tactics game and I am still jonesing for my next fix.

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I can't think of a single moment while playing this game, that I had fun.

I'm just saying...you might have been interested in the game but does that really mean you will necessarily get anything out of playing it? Jury is out. THE JURY IS OUT!

I do understand the need to force yourself to finish games. When I was younger I basically finished nothing, and as I said I STILL have to force myself to finish even games that I like and am enjoying. There's something to be said for finishing games and though not everyone likes to do it I am definitely with you on this one.

I just don't know if you have to finish every game. But if that's what makes you happy then I'm not going to stop you. I won't put up a wall. It'd just fall anyway.

@thepanzini: I don't think that's really it. Xbox launched with the Series S and that thing has been available for peanuts. Less than $200. Casual gamers don't care so much about framerate and resolution or even necessarily understand it. Both Xbox and PlayStation have had some pretty good bundles and decent discounts at times. And of course PS5 has only been widely available for a couple years after absolutely astronomical demand that Sony couldn't meet.

$299 in 2017 is worth $380 today and more by the time the Switch 2 launches. The Switch 2 is launching at essentially the same price as the Switch, if it's $399.

Microsoft's internal hardware costs may be damaging Xbox's finances, but Microsoft has made deeper offers than Sony in an effort to move boxes and it just hasn't worked.

@imunbeatable80: What point is that? I think that Microsoft is in fact signaling that it's learned the opposite lesson. Double down on the biggest projects and let the smaller ones fall by the wayside. I know that they just made an internal statement saying they needed more small and critically acclaimed games but their investments don't show that.

I agree that the console business is broken and I think everyone knows it. The one who had figured it out was Nintendo, with weaker hardware allowing for more reasonable budgets, and according to @thepanzini they're about to go down the bigger budget path with the rest of the industry.