In this day and age, I can't get past the clumsy UI in Morrowind. I literally cannot figure out how to do simple things in that game. To me it just isn't worth wrestling with that when I could play a streamlined if somewhat stripped down game like Oblivion. (Also not to call graphics, but have you LOOKED at Morrowind lately?)

" In this day and age, I can't get past the clumsy UI in Morrowind. I literally cannot figure out how to do simple things in that game. To me it just isn't worth wrestling with that when I could play a streamlined if somewhat stripped down game like Oblivion. (Also not to call graphics, but have you LOOKED at Morrowind lately?) "

I found it quite hard to get into Morrowind, but I will give it another chance when I have the time.

@Dtat said:

" In this day and age, I can't get past the clumsy UI in Morrowind. I literally cannot figure out how to do simple things in that game. To me it just isn't worth wrestling with that when I could play a streamlined if somewhat stripped down game like Oblivion. (Also not to call graphics, but have you LOOKED at Morrowind lately?) "

Yes. The lightning and weather effects are still excellent.  
And the UI in Oblivion was one of the most critized aspects of the game.

" That's fair, you're entitled to your opinion. For me though, I just played some morrowind, and it is un-fucking-playable to me. "

Both are good games and both games have there ups and downs.  Morrowind had seemed to be a bid dark and more gothic in scope.  Oblivion seemed to be a bit lighter.  But either way, when I play both games I always listen to the number one song that gets me motivated to crawl dungeons and open chests.  The Greatest American Hero Theme.  (starts to sing) "Believe it or not, I'm walking on air.  I never thought I could feel so free, flying away on a wing and a prayer.  Who could it be, believe it or not its just me." .......Sorry I got lost in bliss for a moment.  Anyways, I just hope that they decide to make another Elder Scrolls.

The ultra low hit chance in Morrowind is what broke it for most people, I'm willing to bet.

That's nice and everything, but Oblivion is still a far superior game.

I like both Oblivion and Morrowind, but I agree that Morrowind is the superior game. Oblivion has mods that fix it at least somewhat. I can't imagine playing it without Darnified UI etc.
One game I find really similar to Morrowind but with guns is Boiling Point: Road to Hell... 

" @MrKlorox:  The ultra low hit chance is the result of poor caracter creation. If your character is good with a sword, he will hit most of the time. I will however say I prefer Oblivions archery, even though the lack of throwing weapons is a tragedy. "

" @Ignor said:

" @MrKlorox:  The ultra low hit chance is the result of poor caracter creation. If your character is good with a sword, he will hit most of the time. I will however say I prefer Oblivions archery, even though the lack of throwing weapons is a tragedy. "

In that case I change my answer to it being the many ineffective character builds you could make without realizing it. It's pretty hard to fuck up a character in Oblivion. "

 
I've had this argument 10,000 times.  I don't have the energy to have it again. 
 
But since I'm here (and since Vinny's question on the podcast disappointed me), I have to say again that Morrowind is the superior* CRPG in the Morrowind / Oblivion stand-off. 
 
* = Superior, if you don't want your hand held, your travel expedited, your quest log annotated, your option trees elaborated, your crafting  annotated, or your leveling un-banded.  You can't escape the fact that Morrowind and Oblivion are divided by a sensibility gulf: the former is old-school wild and the latter mass-market friendly. 
 
I loved Morrowind's obtuse, unforgiving depth, and have a long string of fond memories borne from its struggles.  You can't convert a MW lover, and you can't convert a MW hater. 
 
So there are three topics you should never to expect to end well:  politics, religion, and ES3 vs. ES4. 

Oblivion is infinitely better than Morrowind. 
 
Deal with it.

" @Fripplebubby said:

" @onarum said:

" Morrowind is a billion times better then Oblivion, by far, and in a lot of ways.  -traveling is far more engaging since you have to plan your route carefully, there is fast travel, but it's a more "realistic" one, you can take boats or striders (huge bug like things that you ride) but obviously boats only take you to coastal villages/cities and striders are only available on big cities, no go anywhere anytime BS.  -no compass, you gotta really make use of landmarks to get your bearings, when someone gives you a quest they say something like "it's northwest from this place", so you don't just follow a stupid point on a radar, you literally have to find it. "  

If you're a fucking travel masochist, there are mods for that in Oblivion. I just don't see why these annoying quirks are considered features at all, seeing as you could just forfeit the fast travel and ride a horse everywhere in Oblivion if you really wanted to.  "

There was still fast travel in Morrowind, but only by way of boats and silt striders.  You had to pay to use them and only in specific locations, you couldn't just warp all over the map from any location. 

Although they were optional in Oblivion, there was no reason not to use them.  Even though the world size was bigger in Oblivion it felt far smaller.  And again, you always had a compass to point out everywhere you needed to be, even for mystery quests where the journal entries emplied you'd have to do all the hard work yourself..  You actually didn't, and this was extremely detrimental to the game.  Like was said.. having to use landmarks to find your bearings and actively explore by yourself made it a much more rewarding and involved game.  I enjoyed Oblivion, for the most part.  But I'll never understand people who claim to have sunk hundredds of hours into them - yet can't get into Morrowind, just because the graphics aren't quite as good.  I'm looking forward to Skyrim a lot (the announcement is apparently incoming) but I seriously pray it's more Morrowind and less Oblivion. "

The combat of Oblivion is ten times better, but the world and the enormous potential for roleplaying your character makes Morrowind the far superior game.

@TheSeductiveMoose: I realize this is 8 months later but I just wanted to say that you can save him. Me and my friend played Morrowind on the Xbox and tried at least twenty times to save him by making him land on our head and when it finally worked, he was a fucking asshole.