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    Gerstmann Takes On... (03/17/2013)

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    krabboss

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    @scotto said:

    Frankly, I don't know why people are so up in arms and conspiratorial about the always-online nature of SimCity. I understood it during the massive server problems, when people were frustrated and just wanted to play (because if you're going to require connection to a server, you better make damn sure those servers are up to the task on day one) - but now?

    As the Maxis lady said in her blog (with the condescendingly bad opening Jeff quoted) - the always-on isn't central to the game actually functioning, but it IS central to their vision for how the game is supposed to work. You can not like and not support their vision, but it's THEIR decision to make. The people rooting out smoking guns about how the game doesn't "need" to be online to work, are fundamentally missing the point.

    She even admits that they could conceivably put out an offline mode for the game, but they won't, because it's not their vision for the game. If you don't like that, then don't support it. They didn't hide the always-on nature of the game prior to release, when you plunked down your $60.

    People should be focusing on the real GAMEPLAY issues the game currently has - braindead traffic pathing, the broken RCI model (it's possible to create cities with 300k+ people, with ONLY residental zones in an empty region), the police cars and ambulances that all swarm to the same emergency one at a time, and so on. And, sure, calling for the option to create bigger cities, for those of us with the hardware to handle it.

    Instead, the internet cabal just spends all their kinetic energy making loud noises about the damn online requirement - the one thing they already knew about before the game came out, and the one thing that is more or less unobtrusive now that the servers are mostly working.

    Because it's publishers shitting on consumers in an attempt to combat piracy. The game is worse than it would have been without the always online DRM. And if you sit back and say "Oh, it's just their vision!" then publishers will continue to try and find new ways to shit on consumers and limit their games. If people tell EA, Activision or Ubisoft that this stuff is shit then maybe they'll cut it out, but it's pretty unlikely at this point with how many people are keen to eat it up.

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    @krabboss said:

    Because it's publishers shitting on consumers in an attempt to combat piracy. The game is worse than it would have been without the always online DRM. And if you sit back and say "Oh, it's just their vision!" then publishers will continue to try and find new ways to shit on consumers and limit their games. If people tell EA, Activision or Ubisoft that this stuff is shit then maybe they'll cut it out, but it's pretty unlikely at this point with how many people are keen to eat it up.

    If it wasn't always online, it would still have DRM, it would still install via Origin. The DRM is irrelevant. That's not why this is always online. As much as business is the reason for it, it's not DRM, but game-as-service stuff like selling DLC and otherwise controlling the user experience. And yeah, it's a valid design choice if you do it right.

    Out of the maybe 5 hours I've spent actually playing SimCity, I find myself half-liking it and half-disliking it. It is in fact seriously broken. Some of that I expect will probably get fixed over the next 6 months. Other parts are part of the game's design.

    I keep building cities that fill the whole map, with populations stagnating around 5,000, because everyone has chosen to live in houses and not apartments. And I still don't understand how the game decides one over the other, because I have low-density housing next to high-capacity roads. And then I plop down 8 parks, and half of my buildings jump to maximum desirability, and the other half don't. And the traffic problems, what the fuck? And sometimes roads don't connect right. And yeah, the cities are too fucking small. Is the low-level simulation perceptibly any better to justify this limitation? No it isn't.

    They should have named this game SimCity Online. If they want to make a SimCity game that uses a non-broken version of this engine and complies to the established model of SimCity, then that's a game that could unashamedly be called SimCity, but it's too late for that now.

    I knew this game was going to be multiplayer-focussed, but I didn't realise it would be mandatory. I didn't realise the cities would be so limited in scale. I also didn't realise that creating a single fully-functional city would not even be possible. EA didn't make those things clear, so I bought into a game I am now only interested in playing in an attempt to get my money's worth. Not even enjoying it. My only hope now is that this investment will pay off in the long term should they fix a few more of these issues. Otherwise I wasted my fucking money like a sap.

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    I can completely believe they had good intentions of capitalizing on this new-wave always-online connectivity frenzy. I just thnk the actual process of trying to capitalize on that has been what's crashed and burned. The city size constraints, the griefing, and the server problems has seemingly led to them getting caught with their pants down.

    When I think of city interaction, I think of the ambitious regions of Sim City 4. What I see with the latest Sim City is a reduction of a feature set to literally force someone to play a certain way. I don't think that's draconion DRM, I just think that's bad design.

    Though I would argue that the whole social connectivity success is attributed to the dirty tricks that were used by these free to play games in the first place, but that's a whole 'nother can over worms.

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    #154  Edited By Bourbon_Warrior

    @bourbon_warrior said:

    @ilovevideogames said:
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    "VGCW" straight up copied this guy , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv36psYbP8w.

    He streams on Twitch because it seems to be more popular than Livestream (obviously).

    Take it or leave it, this guy invented this and deserves all credit. "VGCW" is just awful compared to the original show.

    Doesn't matter that VGCW guy made a better product, has better storylines and filled in the gap when this guy stopped doing it.

    "made a better product and better storyline"

    sure, explain.

    It's entertaining with some great dialogue, the other guy stopped making the other videos then VGCW filled in the gap, I don't see the problem, if the other guy was still making his I would see your point. Would be cool like WCW\WWE beef =)

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    @sooty said:

    @bourbon_warrior said:

    The multiplayer isn't necessary at all, a bigger map would fix that. But I get why Sim CIty is online only, it is to prevent piracy, The Sims series is the most pirated series of games out there, any time you go on Pirate Bay in the game section it is always near the top of the list and its a 4 year old game now. If it was a smooth launch I would of had nothing against it, but it wasn't so it's hard to be positive about this game.

    It doesn't prevent piracy though, all they've done is cause a lot of refunds and soured people on the game. The servers aren't even the biggest problem, the actual game is extremely busted in a variety of ways. I think people would have been more forgiving of the second part if the servers hadn't already pissed people off, later finding the game is beta material really doesn't help. I have no idea how the game is in this state, the numerous bugs aren't even hard to find, basic systems don't work.

    and I'm sure a few days ago people modded the game to work offline, you have to connect afterwards to sync your saves but it won't be long before it's made 100% offline by modders, so it's going to prove useless against piracy soon. We've already found out the game doesn't need online to run the simulation like EA and Maxis tried to claim. It's just a question of how long until people get the game to save locally to eliminate the need for server syncing.

    Personally I'm gonna revisit the game in the summer or something, for now I'm getting my money back. Not paying for a beta.

    EA are fucking assholes for not offering refunds directly, frankly, their game didn't work for almost a week and people slowly started finding out how broken it is. Fuck those guys.

    But it 100% has, look on any pirating site and you want find a Sim City 5 download. Not saying it will last, they might crack it eventually.

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    @ilovevideogames: Dude, go away. Every one of your posts have been the exact same thing, and at this rate I'd guess that is all you're ever going to post about.

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    #157  Edited By CurtMan2k7

    Great article, i think you guys should all right columns, discussing what you're doing outside of reviewing games. This article made me feel like i can feel where you're coming from. Peace Jeff

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    Collusion!

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    Excellent article. Some very interesting thoughts that made the multi-topic thing work well. I'll absolutely have to check that Wrestlimng show out. The examples discussed here sound just fucking incredible. I'm looking forward to giving that a shot.

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    @crushed said:

    YO GANONDORF LET BOWSER WIN THAT REMATCH

    Look at how he refused to pin Bowser in the last few minutes. Ganondorf is an honorable king. He will always have his legacy. Thousand Years of Darkness. Longest streak of title defenses. First double champion. First three-time champion. Defeated Baz and Little Mac at the height of their corporate power. He escaped Gaben's Wallet Squeeze and used it against him. His curse felled over a half-dozen wrestlers in their prime. He even humiliated Bowser in a past Inferno match.

    What did Bowser have? That one time Arino nearly beat him? Those two interns that VGCW corporate pays to dress up as "hoes" during his entrance? No, it was the time he easily beat Ganondorf at the height of Ganondorf's reign, and that night it had been exposed that it was all due to cheating. It was all Bowser had, man.

    Ganondorf graciously let him win. He's still a Tag Team Champion, and soon he'll be GM of the company. Bowser can have his narrow exhibition victory, then go back to hiding for the next five or ten promotions as usual.

    You sir have won all my internet points I have to give. Ganadorf will be the first VGCW Hall Of Fame Inductee and deservedly so. In the short time VGCW has been running Ganondorf has proved time and times again why he is the greatest in the business. He's willing to put others over knowing he doesn't need that extra rub, which is the mark of a great wrestler.

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    I do really enjoy Jeff's writing, and wish he would do more of it outside of reviews, but I understand that he's god enough on his plate with all the video stuff, reviews and going to meeting and you know, running a business.

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    I usually shrug off the thousand-viewer streams on twitch. Chats are usually incredibly spammy and ignored by the streamers themselves. I generally prefer a stream with less than 200 viewers, as it leads for a better experience overall.

    However, VGCW is the exception to this rule. I love the spammy idiots in its chat - every single line of text in full caps - it's like an arena full of rowdy wrestling fans, shouting their memes and in-jokes - and it adds to the experience. Bazza has injected a healthy dose of originality into the streaming community - and he does it by ripping off long loved video game characters, and now VGCW is one of the highlights of my week.

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    #163  Edited By SatelliteOfLove

    @jeff : The thing I've learned about machinima is it obeys Sturgeon's Law x10. For every Mage in a Blue Dress, there's 99 shitty WoW machinima videos for example. Same for webcomics.

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    I think I'm going to have to look into watching more VGCW...

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    #165  Edited By Nasar7

    Thank you for introducing me to VGCW. Ganondorf vs Waluigi made my day yesterday.

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    In your description of Machinima as "recording dumb shit that somehow involves video games," you've also managed to pretty much define Giant Bomb.

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    #167  Edited By Even
    @brashnir said:

    In your description of Machinima as "recording dumb shit that somehow involves video games," you've also managed to pretty much define Giant Bomb.

    I think Jeff is only against "dumb shit that somehow involves video games" when it has a pretentious name attached to it.

    Though Jeff does make odd comments like this occasionally... comments like he's just an outside observer peering into some bizarre circus, when he is clearly the ringleader.

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    My friends and I fell into this VGCW vortex last Friday and it's been god damn insane. The show from February 28th was absolutely fucking nuts. We were losing it at Barkley trying to pull off the hat-trick and the back-to-back title defenses in what were the most entertaining wrestling matches (real or simulated) I've watched in a decade.

    Also, Ghost Nappa and his god damn theme song almost made me shit myself with laughter.

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    @russcat: I hear ya man! Hopefully they can start redeeming themselves in the next gen with Dragon Age 3...

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    #171 gamer_152  Moderator

    Good stuff. I'm certainly interested in VGCW now.

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    I would love to see Jeff make an appearance in the VGCW now, there has to be a model for him floating around somewhere... If Game Grumps can be in it, then someone needs to represent Giant Bomb! :P

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    So, any internet sleuths out there have any idea what mystery game he might be referring to?

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    @brashnir said:

    In your description of Machinima as "recording dumb shit that somehow involves video games," you've also managed to pretty much define Giant Bomb.

    Quick looks are both funny and informative. Recanting fanfiction or some lame attempt at comedy with Garry's Mod is just dumb shit.

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    TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT JEFF. WHERE ARE YOU.

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    #176  Edited By andrewf87462

    Excellent article. I know Alex usually writes these but this is the first one i've actually read. Although i'll definitely be checking these out in the future.

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    Decided to check out with VGCW thing and was not disappointed, in fact I haven't laughed so hard in a long time seeing the detail put into characters (Dan's super taunt for eg.) and the use of video game battle musics occasionally synching incredibly well. What's so great about it is that it's not just fan fiction like most machinima, as its mostly AI driven you just don't know what will happen.

    Watching Tingle do a "sexy dance" after K.O'ing Phoenix Wright on "table-san", left me in tears.

    I also noticed the chat refers the referee as REF GERSTMANN.

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    #178  Edited By CarltonBanks

    I went to peruse the archives of the live stream on Youtube, and the first thing I watched was Waluigi's entrance and the entire chat spamming "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH". I had trouble breathing I was laughing so hard.

    Needless to say, I've been hooked ever since. This coming from someone who's never cared to watch a second of wrestling in his life.

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