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Putin is already so close to tipping the scales to being another Stalin. (Though some have argued he's already there) He's going to do something real stupid soon.

Yup. He already sent millions of people to their deaths in gulags, and purged an incredible number of his perceived political adversaries as well as creating and maintaining a cult of personality.

Care to rephrase your post?

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@pandabear said:

Oh you mean the Olympics in Sochi? A place that is literally 15 hours drive away? I wouldn't leap to such conclusions just yet.

15 hours via car, yes. But only about 15 seconds away via Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and 24 hour rolling news coverage and HD video streaming/recording from people's phones that they carry around in their pockets and the whole entire World Wide Web.

Sochi is 600 miles away from Volgograd to be exact. Analysts are currently saying that there's very little to no chance that Sochi will see any attacks despite the close proximity to the North Caucasus.

Also the main post is updated with news of a suspect behind the attacks.

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I think it's somewhat funny. Sue me.

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@thedudeofgaming said:

@truthtellah said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

@mariachimacabre said:

@truthtellah said:
@oldirtybearon said:

@truthtellah: Just out of curiosity but do you really think that this is the right thread to get the name and shame going for how the Russian government has been acting lately?

You know, I somewhat agree, but when someone suggests that people should rally around another Russian crackdown by Putin, I think that it would be wrong not to respond to it to some extent. Obviously, the main focus is on the tragic loss of life, but if someone suggests that one of the responses should be greater repressive action, then it should at least be responded to in some fashion. A lot of times, in the wake of attacks like this, people call for blood and suggest that anything and everything be done, and that isn't right. Because, unfortunately, people often follow through on it.

I'm done talking about it if others don't want to discuss it, but I think it needed to be noted that responding to evil with further evil is possibly the worst response anyone could have.

Yep. Putin has alienated enough people as it is with his policies the last few years, including most Western leaders. Being even more repressive is probably not the way to go. It's most certainly tempting, when overcome with grief from a percieved injustice, to seek some sort of vengeance, but that rarely works out for anyone involved. This incident was clearly caused by such things and it will only lead to more if Putin becomes more oppressive.

Putin doesn't give a fuck about the west's opinion on most things, neither do Russians. Sorry, guess there's still a small part of the world that doesn't go along with whatever you say. And as long as Putin does that, he's great in my book.

And YOU'RE the motherfuckers who are using drones that end up killing hundreds of civilians... oups, collateral damage. Not to mention all the spying. And you've started more wars than Russia ever did. And you know what, all of that is fine, if you weren't so hypocritical about it.

As for the second part, tell me you're fucking kidding me right now.

That's nuts. I'm guessing you're just using hyperbole to disagree here, but as long as Putin thumbs his nose at others, he's "great" in your book? Putin is in no way "great". You know he's a monstrous man who has manipulated the Russian democracy to remain in power and consolidate ever greater control, and he has not been good for Russia. He is actively restricting freedoms and harming citizens, and there is no real hope that he is going to turn over a new leaf and let up any of his grip any time soon.

You may hate the US or anyone outside Russia, but Putin does not deserve your love out of spite. Even in jest, saying that Putin is "great" isn't right for anyone to suggest.

Don't see what Putin's domestic policies have to do with his foreign policies. In regards to Russia's interests in foreign policy, he has done nothing but protect them. You seem to be hung up on his domestic policy. Don't see what it has to do with you, since I assume you never even resided in Russia.

He's prolonged his stay in office. How is he restricting the freedoms and harming citizens apart from that? He's not the one who has authorized spying on the citizens of his own country.

Basically, to summarize your opinion. "Putin is bad because the news told me so". The protests organized against Putin numbered several tens of thousands. Russia is a country that numbers 150.000.000 people when the protests are in the several hundreds of thousands, come back to me.

"To learn who rules over you, simply learn who you are not allowed to criticize."

-Voltaire

I'm pretty sure your quote contradicts your point about the number of protesters.

Heck, I'd say that quote is perfect for what I'm saying. So, thanks for sharing it.

I'm simply criticizing two serious threats to Russia. The scum that would use terrorist attacks on civilians and the man who would work to continue the oppression of those civilians.

There are many outspoken Putin critics in Russia. It's not like you speak out against Putin and the next thing you know you're on a train to a Siberian work camp.

You still haven't given me examples of the "oppression" but okay, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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#5  Edited By TheDudeOfGaming

@truthtellah said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

@mariachimacabre said:

@truthtellah said:
@oldirtybearon said:

@truthtellah: Just out of curiosity but do you really think that this is the right thread to get the name and shame going for how the Russian government has been acting lately?

You know, I somewhat agree, but when someone suggests that people should rally around another Russian crackdown by Putin, I think that it would be wrong not to respond to it to some extent. Obviously, the main focus is on the tragic loss of life, but if someone suggests that one of the responses should be greater repressive action, then it should at least be responded to in some fashion. A lot of times, in the wake of attacks like this, people call for blood and suggest that anything and everything be done, and that isn't right. Because, unfortunately, people often follow through on it.

I'm done talking about it if others don't want to discuss it, but I think it needed to be noted that responding to evil with further evil is possibly the worst response anyone could have.

Yep. Putin has alienated enough people as it is with his policies the last few years, including most Western leaders. Being even more repressive is probably not the way to go. It's most certainly tempting, when overcome with grief from a percieved injustice, to seek some sort of vengeance, but that rarely works out for anyone involved. This incident was clearly caused by such things and it will only lead to more if Putin becomes more oppressive.

Putin doesn't give a fuck about the west's opinion on most things, neither do Russians. Sorry, guess there's still a small part of the world that doesn't go along with whatever you say. And as long as Putin does that, he's great in my book.

And YOU'RE the motherfuckers who are using drones that end up killing hundreds of civilians... oups, collateral damage. Not to mention all the spying. And you've started more wars than Russia ever did. And you know what, all of that is fine, if you weren't so hypocritical about it.

As for the second part, tell me you're fucking kidding me right now.

That's nuts. I'm guessing you're just using hyperbole to disagree here, but as long as Putin thumbs his nose at others, he's "great" in your book? Putin is in no way "great". You know he's a monstrous man who has manipulated the Russian democracy to remain in power and consolidate ever greater control, and he has not been good for Russia. He is actively restricting freedoms and harming citizens, and there is no real hope that he is going to turn over a new leaf and let up any of his grip any time soon.

You may hate the US or anyone outside Russia, but Putin does not deserve your love out of spite. Even in jest, saying that Putin is "great" isn't right for anyone to suggest.

Don't see what Putin's domestic policies have to do with his foreign policies. In regards to Russia's interests in foreign policy, he has done nothing but protect them. You seem to be hung up on his domestic policy. Don't see what it has to do with you, since I assume you never even resided in Russia.

He's prolonged his stay in office. How is he restricting the freedoms and harming citizens apart from that? He's not the one who has authorized spying on the citizens of his own country.

Basically, to summarize your opinion. "Putin is bad because the news told me so". The protests organized against Putin numbered several tens of thousands. Russia is a country that numbers 150.000.000 people when the protests are in the several hundreds of thousands, come back to me.

"To learn who rules over you, simply learn who you are not allowed to criticize."

-Voltaire

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@truthtellah said:
@oldirtybearon said:

@truthtellah: Just out of curiosity but do you really think that this is the right thread to get the name and shame going for how the Russian government has been acting lately?

You know, I somewhat agree, but when someone suggests that people should rally around another Russian crackdown by Putin, I think that it would be wrong not to respond to it to some extent. Obviously, the main focus is on the tragic loss of life, but if someone suggests that one of the responses should be greater repressive action, then it should at least be responded to in some fashion. A lot of times, in the wake of attacks like this, people call for blood and suggest that anything and everything be done, and that isn't right. Because, unfortunately, people often follow through on it.

I'm done talking about it if others don't want to discuss it, but I think it needed to be noted that responding to evil with further evil is possibly the worst response anyone could have.

Yep. Putin has alienated enough people as it is with his policies the last few years, including most Western leaders. Being even more repressive is probably not the way to go. It's most certainly tempting, when overcome with grief from a percieved injustice, to seek some sort of vengeance, but that rarely works out for anyone involved. This incident was clearly caused by such things and it will only lead to more if Putin becomes more oppressive.

Putin doesn't give a fuck about the west's opinion on most things, neither do Russians. Sorry, guess there's still a small part of the world that doesn't go along with whatever you say. And as long as Putin does that, he's great in my book.

And YOU'RE the motherfuckers who are using drones that end up killing hundreds of civilians... oups, collateral damage. Not to mention all the spying. And you've started more wars than Russia ever did. And you know what, all of that is fine, if you weren't so hypocritical about it.

As for the second part, tell me you're fucking kidding me right now.

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@thedudeofgaming said:

@hailinel said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

Hm, after thinking about it I realized that they're equally as bad as anonymous and other hacktivists. And that the efforts of both groups are as equally wasted. So, perhaps they aren't really better than hacktivists, but if no money or information is being stolen. Then I'd say it's pretty harmless for those affected. So long as it doesn't last too long, which it won't... hopefully.

Well they posted all this guy's info online to the point the cops showed up to his house with assault rifles.

So I guess "harmful"

Yeah okay so missed that part. Am officially wrong, and an asshole. I apologize. Fuck those guys.

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@hailinel said:

@thedudeofgaming said:

Come on guys. It's pretty harmless. So you can't play the game(s) you want, you'll be able to in a couple of days. Go read a book in the meantime. And at least they're doing it for the lulz, unlike those hacktivists.

What, you mean like lulzsec, who literally hacked PSN and other corporate servers "for the lulz"?

Or how this crew apparently sent the police after him on false charges?

Hm, after thinking about it I realized that they're equally as bad as anonymous and other hacktivists. And that the efforts of both groups are as equally wasted. So, perhaps they aren't really better than hacktivists, but if no money or information is being stolen. Then I'd say it's pretty harmless for those affected. So long as it doesn't last too long, which it won't... hopefully.

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Chinese. We'll all be needing it in the future. From a pure "how much money can I make if I learn <insert language here>" perspective, Chinese is the way to go I think. It is extremely difficult I'd imagine, but no more difficult than Japanese.

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@evilsbane said:

...Modern age my ass.

Right? It's a common misconception. Can't say I blame those deceived, we do act civilized most of the time. But deep down... well, we're still animals deep down.

And Russia has free hands to do whatever it wants right now. Kind of like the US after 9/11.