@hondorondo: No I'm not talking about sales I'm saying that even though we're discussing two systems which died at retail you have to accept that people liked the Dreamcast but nobody really gave a shit about N-Gage except Nokia shareholders and you.
@hondorondo: I'm saying that listing all the things the N-Gage can do and then saying it could do twice as much as the dreamcast is the the wrong way to go about comparing the two systems when by all counts the Dreamcast did everything it did much better. You have to factor in people's perceptions of the product because ultimately that is the deciding factor in any product's success or lack thereof. And the n-Gage wasn't innovative it was an interesting idea poorly executed.@ZeForgotten said:
" I think i smell a disappointed N-Gage buyer, it's ok though. We've all made stupid mistakes when buying stuff, but if you could step out of your little bubble you would see that the N-Gage surely is the biggest flop of the two. "
" @Robitt: The only problem of the N-Gage was that no big developer studio was supporting it "
So it didn't have the ability to have a strong line up of good games.
Not a strong line up?
Ashen
Asphalt Urban GT
Asphalt Urban GT 2
Atari Masterpieces Vol. I
Atari Masterpieces Vol. II
Bomberman
Call of Duty
Catan
Civilization
Colin McRae Rally 2005
Crash Nitro Kart
FIFA Football 2004
FIFA Football 2005
Flo Boarding (pack-in, Europe only)
Glimmerati
High Seize
King of Fighters EXTREME
Marcel Desailly Pro Soccer
Mile High Pinball
MLB Slam
Moto GP
NCAA Football 2004
ONE
Operation Shadow
Pandemonium
Pathway to Glory
Pathway to Glory: Ikusa Islands
Payload
Pocket Kingdom
Puyo Pop
Puzzle Bobble VS
Rayman 3
Red Faction
Requiem of Hell
Rifts: Promise of Power
Snakes
Sega Rally (Australia only)
SonicN
Spider-Man 2
SSX: Out of Bounds
Super Monkey Ball
System Rush
The Elder Scrolls Travels: Shadowkey
The Roots: Gates of Chaos
The Sims Bustin' Out
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Team Stealth Action
Tomb Raider
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Virtua Tennis
Warhammer 40,000: Glory in Death
Worms World Party
WWE Aftershock
Xanadu Next
X-Men Legends
X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocaly
@Godwind
said:
@hondorondo
said:
" "Mobile phone + handheld + internet" is so much more innovative than a "pretty robust online-service". Besides Namco and Capcom are Sega local developers and in the country of Nokia there are no developers. "
As an overall product, the NGage might have been better, but as a gaming platform, it was horrible. The Dreamcast, as a gaming platform, did a lot more than just have Robust Online Service. It was an Internet Browser + A Console + A Handheld + Robust Online, On snap, that is my 4 against your 3, I win. Oh, and I would rather play games than listen to the Radio.
Thats ridiculous. The N-Gage was also a Internet Browser. And why is the Dreamcast a handheld? Thats nonsense. So N-Gage: Internet Browser + A Handheld + A Mobile Phone + A Smart Phone + Robust Online + Portable Music and Video Device vs Dreamcast: Internet Browser + A Console + Robust Online 6 vs 3. .. even if you add "a Handheld" for the Dreamcast(what is clearly wrong) the N-Gage would win! (if you meant, as a gaming platform, the dreamcast did more things, I dont understand why you mention the Internet Browser. Flash wasnt even supported! "
@hondorondo: dude that's not how you decide which was a better platform. Nobody counts all a console's bullet points and creates a score for a system based on that, it's idiotic. Having never owned either I have to agree with everyone in this thread that Dreamcast was better simply because alot more people who owned a Dreamcast have fond memories of the system and hold it in high regard than those who owned a N-Gage.
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