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#1  Edited By cardician
@ThePhantomnaut said:

Those print reviews are not reflective towards each publication's overall view because it's all of the reviewers' own opinion and they might have been astonished by it, not for money; notice the bold on print. In order for magazines to get the reviews on time for release, Rockstar has to send them early copies. They have stricter deadlines due to the actual print and distribution process of making a magazine. Print is not the fucking internet. 

 Here here. Nice to see someone gets it. The whole idea that R* is paying for reviews is just absurd. Sure it might happen with some companies (Kane & Lynch), but I seriously doubt R* would bother wasting the money. Why? Because despite how some of you might feel about GTA IV, the majority of purchasers loved the game and thought it was great. It sold fantastically and was highly regarded as one of the best games of the year. R* didn't need to pay anyone for that, it happened fully on the game's own merits. In fact, I can't think of a single R* game since at least GTA 3 that R* would have bothered to waste money on as far as paying for reviews. The games have all done phenomenally well and been highly regarded by all kinds of publications and people as fantastic. Why would they be paying for something they're getting anyway? That's just throwing money away, and last I checked, businesses aren't too keen on that.
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@DystopiaX said:

" @cardician said:

" @Moridin said:

" Jeff said something on Twitter last night about learning how to play Liar's Dice. Perhaps they finally have a review copy, or perhaps Jeff is just a baller. Well, he's a baller regardless - but you know what I mean. "

Yep, saw that too. I think they do have an early copy they probably just aren't allowed to say anything due to the embargo. "
There are reviews out already. No embargo. Got my copy of GI today and it was there. There have been reviews (I think on gamesTM magazine and somewhere else) and other stuff.I just think it's more likely that they don't do stuff until right before the game is out, since they generally don't do previews (other than QL road shows, news articles, and trailers). I didn't even know Alan Wake was coming out/out until I saw the QL cause I haven't been following that game. "
 
No, there is still obviously an embargo. Magazine reviews are different. The embargo applies more to website reviews. Look at IGN, Gamespot, and GiantBomb. They all have the game and have been playing it. I'm sure they even all have reviews written already. But they haven't published them because they're not allowed to yet.

Magazine's are different. R* has to go easier on those embargos because magazines have to have all their articles written by an earlier date in order to get the articles into the publisher who actually prints all the magazines and mails them out. A lot less control is possible with those. And the game comes out this month so if prevented by the embargo the only other option for magazines would be to publish their reviews next month. R* obviously doesn't want that, they want tons of publicity, so they allow magazines to publish their reviews this month, even if it means they come out before the games release. However you do not see a single website with a review do you? That is definitely because of an embargo.

I don't even know why we're arguing about this. If you listen to any GiantBomb podcasts you'll hear Brad and the others talk constantly about embargos and not being able to talk about certain games until a certain date. It's not like this is a conspiracy. It's completely known to happen. And the game websites follow along because if they don't, they piss off the publishers and developers and then they no longer get special access to games. That would in turn hurt their websites popularity and therefore their business. It all makes perfect sense when you think about it. Nothing to argue about.

Rockstar has definitely put an embargo on website reviews and that's that.
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What games would R* needed to have bothered paying sites for in order to get good reviews? Their games have widely been hailed as being fantastic since at least GTA 3. I think you're a little off in your perception there buddy. Why pay for a good score when your games are honestly good enough to get a good score as it is? I happen to know businesses aren't in the habit of just throwing money away. Quite the opposite infact. I believe you're thinking of the company that made Kane & Lynch and created the whole Jeff/Gamespot debacle. But clearly they made up since they've been showing K&L 2 to Jeff recently.

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@Moridin said:

" Jeff said something on Twitter last night about learning how to play Liar's Dice. Perhaps they finally have a review copy, or perhaps Jeff is just a baller. Well, he's a baller regardless - but you know what I mean. "

Yep, saw that too. I think they do have an early copy they probably just aren't allowed to say anything due to the embargo.
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Yup. He got shutdown right quick. Not surprised. R* is on top of these things. I remember all the GTA IV streams getting shut pretty quick until there were so many that R* had trouble keeping up.

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It's an open world R* game. So yes, I think it is highly anticipated. It's like GTA IV in the west with tons of improvements, so those of us who loved GTA IV are greatly looking forward to it.
 
Oh, and I stand corrected. There apparently is now a leaked video of it being played on JustinTV. Bastard, I am so envious.Doesn't happen very often for me anymore that I look forward to a title this much.

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#7  Edited By cardician

Mean't the title to say HASN'T leaked. Sorry.

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I'm really impressed R* has managed to keep this game from leaking so far. Usually you see all kinds of streams on places like JustinTV with people laying these highly anticipated games early but so far there seems to be nothing. Wonder how they've managed to keep everything under wraps. Normally a company can't control every outlet, from the duplicator to the distributor. Impressive.

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Oh, and Gatero might not be the correct name of the town in the US release. I got this info from EgHeadFoo's awesome faq on GameFaqs. If you have any more questions I think he's pretty much got everything answered in his FAQ.

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#10  Edited By cardician

You mean how you register them in the Bestiary? If you want to know, put it in as a spoiler because it sort of is: