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    New co-op title announced at Gamescom - Metal Gear Survive

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    Jesus_Phish

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    #1  Edited By Jesus_Phish

    IGN have the scoop on it, but just today Konami announced a new 4 player co-op based game based after the event's of Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes.

    It doesn't sound amazing to me. It sounds like what you'd get when you find all these assets you have and need a way to use them to make something that can have microtransactions out the ass. There are a hundred thousand free to play co-op third person action games on steam which are all I can think about when I read "Konami" "co-cop" "4-player" and "crystalline zombies".

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    #2  Edited By Teddie

    Survive sees the members of Militaires Sans Frontières not killed in that game’s finale transported through wormholes into an alternate universe, where they’re forced to battle a force of crystalline zombies

    I'm glad they put that in the article so I at least know I'll never need to care about this thing.

    EDIT: oh and it has "survive" in the title and resource scavenging. So it's gonna be one of those, I guess.

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    #3  Edited By vortextk

    Isn't that the end of zeroes not V?

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    #4  Edited By Jesus_Phish
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    Came in here hoping to discover co-op Pachinko and now I'm thoroughly underwhelmed.

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    Holy shit it's the real Chapter 3 you guys. I can't I fucking can't. I can't even bring myself to shitpost about this it's just so sad.

    In case IGNs player is refusing to co-operate with anyone else.

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    The FOX Engine sure continues to look pretty, even if the characters don't emote.

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    #7  Edited By Ezekiel

    I could really go for an MGS that isn't another fucking prequel. But I know the only reason this exists is because they're using most of the assets from MGSV. I don't think Konami are capable of delivering a story campaign like the previous games, especially with all new assets. So they go with the generic zombie mode.

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    Let the bastardisation continue....

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    I'm just surprised Konami is still making games at all.

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    #10  Edited By BabyChooChoo

    AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Honestly though, it doesn't even seem like that bad of an idea. Seems like yet another harmless co-op zombie shooter thing. I mean, there's a billion and a half of those on Steam. Most people are only mad (and maybe rightfully so) because it's Konami. Whatever the case may be, like always, I hope it's a good game because that would be nice...also I feel like that would somehow make people even more angry which is fucking hilarious to me.

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    @gkhan said:

    I'm just surprised Konami is still making games at all.

    I would assume they're gonna try and squeeze whatever they can out of that engine and all those assets lying around.

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    @gkhan said:

    I'm just surprised Konami is still making games at all.

    I would assume they're gonna try and squeeze whatever they can out of that engine and all those assets lying around.

    Yeah, but I thought they were going to do that with Pachinko machines and (I guess) other gambling stuff. To make a video game, even one that reuses assets, you have to get designers and developers and artists and managers working for at least six months to a year. I thought Konami was out of that business.

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    Game quality aside, something about this just feels wrong.

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    This feels like a Resident Evil spin off,

    I am potentially interested. If it's Left4Dead in the Fox Engine then that could be fun to screw around with alongside other Metal Gear fans. But I'm not expecting it to be good.

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    could be cool. mgs v played well.

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    I know I had some rope laying around somewhere.

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    The zombies are a metaphor for Konami's gaming division.

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    #20  Edited By bill_mcneal

    As someone who never had strong feelings toward the franchise (or Kojima for that matter), this sounded pretty cool! If this were an offshoot single player game I’d be all over it. The whole setting sounds pretty awesome and I’m even fine with the survival aspects. However the thing that kills it for me is the “co-op” part. This seems like it’s just a F2P (which probably won’t be free) multiplayer game with microtransations out the wazoo.

    @gkhan said:
    @babychoochoo said:
    @gkhan said:

    I'm just surprised Konami is still making games at all.

    I would assume they're gonna try and squeeze whatever they can out of that engine and all those assets lying around.

    Yeah, but I thought they were going to do that with Pachinko machines and (I guess) other gambling stuff. To make a video game, even one that reuses assets, you have to get designers and developers and artists and managers working for at least six months to a year. I thought Konami was out of that business.

    I think it's more likely they're out of the AAA game scene (PES excluded), where they had to invest a ton of money for a significant amount of time, and they might not see a meaningful return. This feels like they hired a small-ish team, gave them the assets to MGS5, and told them to whip something up. They have the engine, they have the assets, a team that will probably work cheaply, and no Kiefer Sutherland to pay.

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    Well I wan't prepared for this. I mean holy hell. That may be a worse post kojima metal gear announcement than I could have possibly imagined.

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    I mean you could just copy paste MGSV with no story and co-op and it would be nearly GoTY this year.

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    Looks better than Federation Force at least. But seriously where the hell is Metal Gear Rising 2?

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    So this is how it finally ends, huh? What a fucking garbage fire...

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    If it plays anything at all like V, and it handles Co-op well? I don't know, I think I might dig this you guys. Immediate reaction was negative, but I am coming around. Maybe.

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    @akimoto said:

    If it plays anything at all like V, and it handles Co-op well? I don't know, I think I might dig this you guys. Immediate reaction was negative, but I am coming around. Maybe.

    Yea, if they fix their online networking stuff it could turn out to be a good game. People need to realize that Kojima didn't build MGSV from the ground up by himself. There are probably still a lot of talented developers from the MGSV team enslaved working at Konami.

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    Loading Video...

    Jim seems happy.

    Gotta say, this is about the most uninspired thing they could have done.

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    If Konami cared about MGS, they wouldn't have fucked over Kojima and MGS V the way they did. They can keep this cash grab, they've lost all my respect #FuckKonami

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    I think it's hilarious that of all the things to set up "zombie co-op game," they went with, "random giant wormhole appearing above Mother Base after the ending of Ground Zeroes."

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    @dudeglove: Oh, I have no idea. That might be the case. I haven't really seen much Konami news outside of the Kojima firing and that MGS3 pachinko trailer people started posting.

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    It looks cheap and dumb and... Bad, but I'd much rather they did something insignificant like this than try to make a "real" MGS game at this point.

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    @teddie said:

    Survive sees the members of Militaires Sans Frontières not killed in that game’s finale transported through wormholes into an alternate universe, where they’re forced to battle a force of crystalline zombies

    I'm glad they put that in the article so I at least know I'll never need to care about this thing.

    EDIT: oh and it has "survive" in the title and resource scavenging. So it's gonna be one of those, I guess.

    I thought you or whoever you quoted from was joking... until I saw the trailer.

    Of all things Konami could do in the MGS universe.

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    I mean, I dunno....maybe? Look, I wish it wasn't zombies and I'm a guy that by and large still likes most zombie stuff cause if made well those games can be some mindless fun and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    Again, wish it wasn't zombies but the idea of using the mechanics of MGSV again is kind of okay by me. It mostly depends on how this is gonna go, is it going to be a complete linear affair (like L4D) or is it going to have more of the mission structure of Phantom Pain in an open environment complete with decking out your zombie defense force base, or will it be made in such a way that the micro transactions will be ridiculous and a key focus?

    I played through MGSV at the beginning of this year and while some of the story stuff was pretty disappointing it was one of the best experiences I've had with a game just from it's mechanics alone. I spent a month doing EVERYTHING in that damn game and loved the hell out of it. Getting up to no good with a few friends with those mechanics sounds kind of alright to me. I'll be less enthused if it's super linear and doesn't facilitate any good open world nonsense you could make happen in Phantom Pain, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

    I mean, maybe it's for the best they don't try to make any actual new story stuff in this series cause who the hell knows how that could go. Depending on what the nitty gritty mechanics of this thing is, waiting for a price drop and trying to press gang my friends into doing dumb open world phantom pain stuff could be okay. Or this could be absolute garbage, but I'm not going to write this thing off yet. This could be the one MGS game I could get my friend to play who hates the story stuff for MGS, but liked the look of Phantom Pain's mechanics.

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    And of course the internet is outraged.

    Who cares, Rising was awesome.

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    It's a long shot, but the thought of getting a video series featuring Dan and Drew playing together in this game gives me a small amount of hope. Doubt that'll ever happen though.

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    #38  Edited By bigsocrates

    @paulmako said:

    This feels like a Resident Evil spin off,

    I am potentially interested. If it's Left4Dead in the Fox Engine then that could be fun to screw around with alongside other Metal Gear fans. But I'm not expecting it to be good.

    This is going to be Metal Gear Umbrella Corps.

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    Yeah it doesn't sound amazing, sounds like fucking trash. What a joke. Wormholes and zombies. I can let something like this pass and who cares, it doesn't affect how I feel about the series but man is this the worst thing you could do with MGS.

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    #40  Edited By Dixavd

    Konami is so weird... Who announces big games at Gamescom?

    Edit: Oh Kaz :)

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    Even if we pretend that we're all ok with this being a Metal Gear game and we're ok with it since it's using the MGSV engine and that game had good controls, this still looks completely uninspired with the most bland and generic character design possible. If it wasn't for the Metal Gear brand and the quality of the graphics engine, it would feel an awful lot like one of those random F2P games on Steam.

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    @bigsocrates said:

    @paulmako said:

    This feels like a Resident Evil spin off,

    I am potentially interested. If it's Left4Dead in the Fox Engine then that could be fun to screw around with alongside other Metal Gear fans. But I'm not expecting it to be good.

    This is going to be Metal Gear Umbrella Corps.

    Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. It's like someone at Konami thought: "Man look at Capcom and their Umbrella Corps, wonder how we can tap into that market?". Part of me also wants them to team-up and cross-over now. Evil Gear? Solid Evil? Resident Metal?

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    @bigsocrates said:

    @paulmako said:

    This feels like a Resident Evil spin off,

    I am potentially interested. If it's Left4Dead in the Fox Engine then that could be fun to screw around with alongside other Metal Gear fans. But I'm not expecting it to be good.

    This is going to be Metal Gear Umbrella Corps.

    Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. It's like someone at Konami thought: "Man look at Capcom and their Umbrella Corps, wonder how we can tap into that market?". Part of me also wants them to team-up and cross-over now. Evil Gear? Solid Evil? Resident Metal?

    First change: Crawling speed increased 100%.

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    @atwa said:

    And of course the internet is outraged.

    Who cares, Rising was awesome.

    Rising was pretty good if not flawed in some serious ways. There is no indication this will be awesome in the same over-the-top way Rising was.

    That said I'm not crying over here. I mean if it's fun to play then it's fun to play. The multiplayer in MGSV was pretty fun for a while so I don't see why this shouldn't be at least competent.

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    If there is a zombie in your game it's not like I will turn it off, but I think I am entirely done with any zombie focused game. It is so hacky and boring by this point. Zero interest.

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    #46  Edited By Bowl-of-Lentils
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    I see no metal gears

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    A certain Dan Ryckert periscoped his live reaction to the trailer, you can view it here.

    I laughed a lot.

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    I bet Kojima is watching this and is laughing his ass off.

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