So it seems that stealth has completely gone out of the window for this new MGS game, and there are clear elements of DMC / Bayonetta in it. I'm still unsure as to whether this is a good thing.
 
If you go back to MGS 1, wasn't the highest achievement for killing the least amount of people? Does this dilute the core fun of MGS, or is it a welcome break? 
 
As I said, I'm unsure.

True, with MGS 4. However, it still feels more like you're playing it 'right' if you do it without killing. Although, certainly it did try to encourage you to do that a lot.
 
Lightning Bolt Action - I assume this is the metaphor for the 'strike / slice' that they're touting. 
 
Still... Metal Gear Solid 2 was awesome, yo.

I got the feeling from the trailer it's an action game with a possible stealth aspect to it. Not as much as in the original mgs games. I hope there will be stealth,but to be honest, i will buy it no matter what. Stealth or not there has to be story and looooong cutscenes in it.

I have a feeling that it will be a mainly action focused game hence the ''Lighting Bolt Action'' but may have some stealth sequences and i wouldn't be surprised if Raidens suit had active camo like the one in MGS 2.

Ahh, I forgot about the ol' Active Camo. 
 
I do like, as Wasara88 pointed out, that any real arguing over this is pointless. There will only be 5 fighting sequences in this 10 hour movie.

" This isn't a stealth action game.  It's an action game.  It's designed to be different. "

I liked it. At times seemed too brutal, but it was amazing all the way!

it doesn't have to stick with the formula just because it's got metal gear in the name. raiden isn't snake. :/

I totally heard it's still a stealth game... and they just cut so much to show off the destructible environment and the precision...
I'm pretty sure it's still a stealth game

" So it seems that stealth has completely gone out of the window for this new MGS game, and there are clear elements of DMC / Bayonetta in it. I'm still unsure as to whether this is a good thing.  If you go back to MGS 1, wasn't the highest achievement for killing the least amount of people? Does this dilute the core fun of MGS, or is it a welcome break?   As I said, I'm unsure. "

" @Brendan:@Brendan said:

" This isn't a stealth action game.  It's an action game.  It's designed to be different. "

Yeah but it would be nice if it had some stealth because it would differentiate it from another action games and stealth is a big part of the metal gear franchise. I agree with you that it will be an action focused game,but i just hope it wont forget what makes metal gear what it is....(stealt action and story)."

I didn't really think mgs games were really about stealth, rather concealment. I mean to use stealth for mgs4, it's shoot everyone in the face with a tranquiler or you get caught eventually in alert mode. Crawl your way through the whole level ect. It was too stealth action, i'm okay with having more action for this game if that means cutting which seems cool. I don't think all that much as changed in terms of action. However I don't want a devil may cry game of course.

I don't see how it's name matters.  Final Fantasy has done different styles, and it became things like Tactics.  Also, I'm not sure if you were paying close attention, but the action itself was unlike anything else out there today.  It sounds like you just want more regular MGS, and you're not getting it. "

Looks like there will be some stealth elements to Rising 
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1098800p1.html

" This isn't a stealth action game.  It's an action game.  It's designed to be different. "

Other than the fact that he uses a sword it shows no resemblance to DMC or Bayonetta.

I'd rather run through a ton of dudes cutting them up like the trailer instead of sneaking up on some guard. At least for now...

traditionally, ninjas can be both stealthy and brutal. obviously raiden isn't a traditional ninja, you know, with all of the "everything from the chin down is robot" thing going on, but i predict that if you want to play brutally you can, if you want to play stealthily you can. i think there will be some major, forced "take out all of these guys" moments, but that is present in all of the metal gear games anyway.

Toms - good point. I suppose I'm still thinking of it as a sort of 'US' stealth game (although, let's be honest, MGS has never REEEAAAALLLLY been that). Perhaps I need to set my mode to Tenchu.

You know this game is still stealth right?

I do now!

" Calling it now; Bayonetta will be your love interest & the final boss will be Dante. "

" @Lydian_Sel said:

" Calling it now; Bayonetta will be your love interest & the final boss will be Dante. "

sounds a bit preposterous. "

metal gear solid 3 was the best part of the series

" Calling it now; Bayonetta will be your love interest & the final boss will be Dante. "

" @Toms115 said:

" @Lydian_Sel said:

" Calling it now; Bayonetta will be your love interest & the final boss will be Dante. "

sounds a bit preposterous. "

Sounds a bit sarcastic.  Whether or not it involves stealth, I am still excited for this game. "

neither of those were sarcastic lol. one was a joke pertaining to general plot insanity (plot insanity that i enjoy, however) within the metal gear series, and one was light humour.

but anyway, i too am excited for this game. i hope we get to play as mgs2 raiden at the start, just for old times' sake.

" metal gear solid 3 was the best part of the series "

wrong thread for this, but anybody that disagrees with mgs4 being the current (and unlikely to budge anytime soon, no matter how presumptuous that is regarding the latest additions to the series) leader of the series is straight up wrong. you can have your personal opinions, but placing mgs3 higher up than 4 is silly.

back on topic. i've always liked raiden and being able to play him in his pre-lolrobot stage one last time would be great. i can't deny that his "redeemed" self looks hella fun, though.

How so?
 
Most people still say the best Halo was Halo:CE.
 
I loved MGS4 but my favourite in the series is still MGS3.
 @Toms115 said:

" @apoptosis61 said:

" metal gear solid 3 was the best part of the series "

wrong thread for this, but anybody that disagrees with mgs4 being the current (and unlikely to budge anytime soon, no matter how presumptuous that is regarding the latest additions to the series) leader of the series is straight up wrong. you can have your personal opinions, but placing mgs3 higher up than 4 is silly.

back on topic. i've always liked raiden and being able to play him in his pre-lolrobot stage one last time would be great. i can't deny that his "redeemed" self looks hella fun, though.

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