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    Mass Effect

    Game » consists of 21 releases. Released Nov 20, 2007

    Humanity is still a newcomer on the futuristic galactic stage, and it's up to the charismatic Commander Shepard to investigate the actions of a rogue agent while under threat from a dangerous synthetic race known as the Geth.

    Whom Did You Save and Why?

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    #1  Edited By nightriff


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    #2  Edited By nightriff

    Ashley, always Ashley. I don't understand why someone would every pick Kaiden over her. Even FemShep saves Ashley in my book, just makes sense to me. And you can convince her not to be Space Racist anymore guys.

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    Ashley because Kaidan was with the bomb. I wasn't leaving the bomb until Saren was good and gone and the bomb was secured.

    It probably didn't hurt that I was already a lady soldier, so I had a lady soldier to spare.

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    #4  Edited By Tylea002

    Kaiden, dude's not a space racist.

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    #5  Edited By Hitchenson

    I really don't like either character, but Ashley's a lower ranking grunt and Kaiden's a higher ranking biotic. It makes more sense to save him.

    She's also kinda a space racist.

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    #6  Edited By dystonym

    Kaiden. Had just about enough of Ashley's space racism by the time it came to it.

    Also Kaiden was straight up magic which helped.

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    #7  Edited By TheHT

    Ash is distrustful of aliens, but not xenophobic. I'm pretty sure I saved her because Kaiden was all about making sure the bomb went off and I agreed with him.

    Kaiden had a good death, and it kinda sucks that there weren't any situations where making a choice would definitely result in someone's death (or leaving) until the very end of the series, since those choices tend to be the toughest and most memorable. For instance, it would have been pretty cool if some of the clashes between characters in ME2 just straight up weren't solvable through diplomacy, and resulted in either-or crewmates.

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    #8  Edited By Sarge506

    Ashley.

    Because boobies.

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    #9  Edited By Ravenlight

    Kaiden. Both him and Ashley are hella generic cardboard cutout characters with cardboard cutout issues to make it seem like they have depth. But at least Kaiden didn't have a big obvious set of knockers hanging off him. I cut Ashley loose because I don't like it when video games try to pander to me.

    At least Miranda had a narrative reason for being a Barbie doll.

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    #10  Edited By icicle7x3

    Kaiden, he seemed more helpless at the time and thought Ashley would be fine on her own.

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    Ashley, but I would have killed both if I had the chance.

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    #12  Edited By Make_Me_Mad

    I saved Ashley because even though I was doing everything I could NOT to romance Kaiden, the game wasn't getting the message and kept giving him progressively more friendly dialogue with my Femshep. So, really, the only thing left to do was friend-zone him permanently. Via nuclear detonation. I'm sure he understood.

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    @TheHT agreed. Series has far too much Hit The Special Option To Win moments, which seriously hampers its ability to be affective. It's important to note that the one situation where you very definitely couldn't get both options is the most memorable.
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    Kaiden, because he's Carth Onasi.

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    #15  Edited By probablytuna

    I saved both, because I had separate playthroughs. But my male Shepard saved Kaiden and FemShep saved Ashley.

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    #16  Edited By alwaysbeclothing

    I think in Mass Effect 1 they hadn't really defined how powerful Biotics could be, whereas a physically resilient soldier with a gun was pretty clearly useful. I remember on my hardest difficultly run I would camp in the back while I sent in Ash and Wrex to tank/kill for me. I just sat in the back waiting for my respawn units cooldown to reset while I took potshots form safety. Good Times.

    Also I was already a biotic and thus based on the "squad build" bars, didn't need to bring another one with me.

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    @Ravenlight all the characters in 1 are cardboard cutouts, we just forgive a couple because a) aliens are cool or b) the cardboard cutout is cool. People liked Tali, but she was nothing but a codex entry for the quarian race that could use light armor and AI Hacking. Tali didn't have a personality until 2, Liara was an archetypical ingenue until 2. Garrus, Ashley and Kaidan were Cowboy Cop, Tough Girl and Sensitive Guy and little more. The only character that actually got to show a multifaceted personality was Wrex.

    I feel like 1 nailed the science and failed on characterization, 3 got characters but collapsed on science, and 2 got them both right.
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    #18  Edited By Ravenlight

    @Brodehouse said:

    and 2 got them both right.

    I agree with you there, but I still hated Jack. Put some clothes on, you freak!

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    #19  Edited By pr1mus

    In my first game i saved Kaidan because Ashley is so fucking annoying. But now that i played ME3 and found out that Kaidan is even more annoying in that game than Ashley is in the first one he's the one who ate it in my second playthrough.

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    #20  Edited By fattony12000

    Both.

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    @Ravenlight

    @Brodehouse said:

    and 2 got them both right.

    I agree with you there, but I still hated Jack. Put some clothes on, you freak!

    I've actually read a pretty compelling article that talks about how survivors of invasive physical trauma often turn to 'extreme' expressions in order to reassert agency over their own body; this would be Jack's tattoos and choice of dress. There's actually a lot about her mannerisms as relates to contact that expresses this, even when this close to fighting Miranda she eschews making any contact, Shepard manages to bar her path temporarily simply by placing his arm in front of her, in her romance scene there's clear trepidation regarding touching Shepard. I think a lot of people brush Jack off way too fast, and it's almost a metastory with that character. Her initial characterization is hostile and tries to push you away, those that are pushed away play into her negative feedback loop, which in itself explains her hostility. There's more there than people give credit for.

    Of course, her nakedness is also just an art designer going "I gave her all these tattoos and I want them showed off Goddammit!"

    But that's not your point, and not really germane to this topic.
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    #22  Edited By Levius

    Kaiden, mainly because I was a soldier so I would always take a biotic and a tech guy with me, so I hardly ever used her and she wasn't particularly interesting character to me. Kaiden was one of my main guys.

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    #23  Edited By nightriff

    @Brodehouse: Agreed, I think Jack gets a lot of shit she doesn't deserve. I still think she is probably the best story romance as she begins to open up about herself towards Shep.

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    #24  Edited By EquitasInvictus

    Kaiden, I thought failing to ensure he was doing alright would've ended with the bomb failing to detonate for some reason so I figured I'd personally ensure it went off as planned by backing him up.

    I hadn't realized it would've went off properly either way. I might've saved Ashley in that case.

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    #25  Edited By breadfan

    @Skyfire543 said:

    Kaiden, because he's Carth Onasi.

    That's why I let him die.

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    #26  Edited By BaneFireLord

    Ashley, out of chivalry.

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    #27  Edited By UlquioKani

    I prefer Kaiden but saved Ashley because I was thinking with my dick

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    #28  Edited By Xtrememuffinman

    Kaiden, because ME2 comic and not the actual game.

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    #29  Edited By Oscar__Explosion

    Ashley, Why? My dick.

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    #30  Edited By GunstarRed

    Kaiden most of the time because Ashley is a terrible space racist. I played through the first game about seven times for all the achievements and ended up saving her a couple of times, but the save that carried over into 2 and 3 that bitch was dead.

    (Kaiden is pretty lame though.)

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    #31  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    Kaiden was pretty lame in Mass Effect 1, but at least he wasn't a racist. Also, he became less lame in ME 3, which is another nice perk.

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    #32  Edited By MezZa

    Ashley. I never found Kaiden to be that interesting, and I figured it would be better for him to be there guarding the bomb til it went off anyway.

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    #33  Edited By s10129107

    Kaiden's powers were completely useless. He was on bomb duty and he knew it. I DID WHAT I HAD TO DO DAMMIT...

    :::sobs::::

    i'm sooo sorry Kaiden

    :::sobs::::

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    #34  Edited By LackingSaint

    Kaiden, because he's not a shitty person.

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    #35  Edited By Ravenlight

    @Brodehouse said:

    @Ravenlight

    @Brodehouse said:

    and 2 got them both right.

    I agree with you there, but I still hated Jack. Put some clothes on, you freak!

    I've actually read a pretty compelling article that talks about how survivors of invasive physical trauma often turn to 'extreme' expressions in order to reassert agency over their own body; this would be Jack's tattoos and choice of dress. There's actually a lot about her mannerisms as relates to contact that expresses this, even when this close to fighting Miranda she eschews making any contact, Shepard manages to bar her path temporarily simply by placing his arm in front of her, in her romance scene there's clear trepidation regarding touching Shepard. I think a lot of people brush Jack off way too fast, and it's almost a metastory with that character. Her initial characterization is hostile and tries to push you away, those that are pushed away play into her negative feedback loop, which in itself explains her hostility. There's more there than people give credit for. Of course, her nakedness is also just an art designer going "I gave her all these tattoos and I want them showed off Goddammit!" But that's not your point, and not really germane to this topic.

    I think Jack is a fairly well-realized character, I just didn't like her even after the back story and romance option :P

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    Kaiden, usually. I find his backstory like from Jump Zero to be more interesting that Ashley's. And I think Kaiden's voice actor is better.

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