Do you follow GB alums?

Are there more than 2 or are you counting East?

I don't follow Patrick or Austin at all because I don't think they line up well with what I like this site for: laid back, no politics, goofy gaming content. I checked a few Waypoint articles such as the Yakuza 0 one by Patrick and they reaffirmed that for me.

I still try and check in on Dave Snider but he is a little off the grid. I tend to forget about the interns the moment they leave the site.

I follow them all on twitter, although i'm not sure what daves doing, i also visit waypoint a couple times a week and listen to their podcast, they're doing something a little different over there that i need that i don't really get from giant bomb. Also Austin Walker is a hot second behind vinny for my favorite person in the games industry.

Not really. GB isn't just the people, it's also the specific environment where they're in the same room making a specific kind of content. I got really into Patrick's solo content once he started Spelunkin' though and tried following his stuff on Kotaku, but it wasn't the same. Waypoint is the same deal, it's not what I'm looking for. And folks like Alexis and Dave just drop off the radar completely for me. I think I still follow Dave on twitter, but I haven't got a clue what he's doing. He's just nice.

Noclip is cool. I don't exactly follow it closely, but I'm always happy when a new episode pops up in my recommendations. It's less interesting when it's for a game I don't like or haven't played though.

I follow Austin and Patrick on Twitter but mostly because I never unfollowed them after they left GB. I checked out the Waypoint site and the podcast and it's just too "Vice" for my tastes.

@jesus_phish: I'd agree. I love Austin and Patrick but just can't get into Waypoint. I think it's lacks the small core team feeling IE the GB feel where you watch for the personalities, not necessarily the contents. The Vinny, Alex and Dan set up is pretty much perfect, GB west now with drew leaving I'll rarely watch now

This is exactly the same thing with me.

I'm not exactly in a Giant Bomb bubble, I follow some friends of the site and other people, but Patrick and Austin's personal and professional endeavours aren't exactly what I like or look for, way too much political stuff. I rather just check on them once in a while than following them.

@wynnduffy totally agree. I also tried following all the old Whiskey Media personalities after the CBS buyout but it just wasn't the same as having them all under one roof.

Austin and Patrick are really the only ones in gaming still. Their stuff post Giantbomb and post Patrick's Mario stuff is horrible. There's no chemistry, just politics, pretentiousness, and cynicism; it's real bad.

I keep up with the Waypoint podcast for now, but as it settles into its groove I'm not sure how much longer I'll do that. I appreciate Austin's perspective but Patrick and Danielle have both leaned heavily into his same mannerisms (the faux "oof, ahh, ummm" stuttering when confronting a difficult subject or obvious mistake some figure made) and also the boisterous "hah HAH!" exclamation when they're impressed with a pun or turn of phrase. It's made for a podcast that, counter to Austin (and Patrick's) expressed beliefs of constantly challenging their own understanding of things often comes off as a very internalized podcast. They also spend a lot of their time talking about phone games and other stuff I'm just not interested in at all; I don't mind the political bend or the more condensed nature of it, but the Bombcast and Beastcast benefit from wildly different perspectives.

No matter the era, no one Giant Bomb person has had an obvious cohort, they all have their differences and think the other person is crazy, weird or an idiot for one reason or another. Danielle, Patrick and Austin often come across as one voice coming from three mouths and it makes for a less dynamic listen even when it covers quite interesting subject matter. This goes for just about any podcast; The Ringer's podcasts, Adam Carolla, Marc Maron, Jalen Rose are the main podcasts I listen to and none of them would succeed if it were just a collection of people in a room agreeing with each other for one to two hours.

I don't really read many Waypoint articles, the site often comes across as intensely niche in its coverage and, when it does cover something interesting like the intersection between Street Fighter culture and hip-hop culture, they just hit the surface level without much actually interesting insight into the topic. "Surface level" can also describe what seems to be a new flagship feature for them, their "Guide to Games", which comes across as neither a guide nor a real explanation of what makes a game interesting or great. It comes across more as "Austin talks over some b-roll for two minutes about a game he likes without explaining why any of the things he's saying means anything to anyone other than himself."

It's a shame, I had pretty high hopes for Waypoint.

Not really, I kinda just come on Giantbomb and don't really have any interest in other gaming related sites.

I was bummed when Austin left. I think Austin gelled perfectly with Vinny and Alex but he was only here about a year so my attachment wasn't solid yet. I was really bummed when Patrick left just because he worked with the others so well but just as solid with solo content. Really missing Bombin' in the AM and especially Spookin' with Scoops.

I try to keep up with those guys on Vice, I thought I could but its just not the same. I think it's the website itself that keeps me away, just can't stand the design, layout and all the ads.

But with Drew...this is really tough, his role on the site just kept expanding and his personality really made him the most likeable guy on the site.

I watched Patrick's Mario Maker streams when he was feuding with Dan. Only thing i have seen of waypoint was the 3 day or so of livestream they did and thought that it just wasnt what i was looking for. Im watching Danny's noclip stuff though. Im sure ill subscribe to the successor of Alt-F1 even though i still havent seen a single F1 race.

Waypoint should make it easy as it's a 2 for 1 deal. i should check it out. i am a lazy lazy man and have no excuse.

No. It's funny actually, I follow Danny more than the guys that left giantbomb. NoClip is a lot more up my alley than Pat's work or Waypoint is. I do miss having Austin on the crew though. He meshed well and added some needed contrast to the regulars.

I don't follow all of them (like I think Dave left before my time). I follow Patrick and Austin, and listen to Waypoint Radio. I'm also following a couple related Giant Bomb people like Danny, Mary, and Kessler. I'm a noclip supporter as well.

It is sort of hard for me to follow what some people are doing. Again I'm not super familiar with Dave aside from a few good old Quick Looks, but I never really figured out what he's doing. Likewise I'm like the one guy who doesn't go to Twitch so I'm not sure what Mary is actually doing there. (Like is there a Twitch...Twitch Show, and she's a host/producer on that?)

And might as well say this again: god dammit, I'm going to miss Drew.

Not really. Alexis, Dave, and Patrick had all left before I found this place; so even though I've been going through some of the back catalog of content and seen/heard them (and Ryan), its just not the same. I was here for Austin leaving, and I checked out Waypoint, but it is not the site for me (even though I'm pretty liberal myself). I hope Austin keeps guesting on the Beastcast a couple times a year though, including more Christmas specials, because he still meshes so well with the crew.

I follow most if not everyone on twitter which seemed like the sanest thing to do. I've tried getting into Waypoint's site but there's (somewhat ironically) no black option, just eye-lasering white and I can't handle it. I do like some of the articles however (when I'm able to read them) and the podcasts can be fun. They're good people.

I really enjoy Waypoint's stuff, their podcast is a lot of goofy fun which makes me laugh out loud on regular occasion and I like some of the weird directions their articles take. It certainly feels like a very Austin Walker joint. I follow Danny closely too (not technically a GB alumnus, but we'll count him), his work has been fantastic. I'm interested to see what Drew does going forward, but I'll certainly miss his presence here.

I was listening to Waypoint for a while, but had too many podcasts in general and cut them for the time being. I do read Waypoint articles though and follow them both on twitter.

I watched Patrick's youtube stuff when he was doing that. Not all of it as he was pretty prolific with that stuff when it was his main gig.

I follow Dave and Matt Kessler on twitter-both are fun follows.

I've watched Danny's two docs and plan on watching all his future ones. (He was never official GB but I loved whenever he popped up and watched his solo Gamespot stuff)

I follow Merry Kish on twitter but I've watched maybe two things on Twitch and they were before she went there. I saw she was playing through Resident Evil 4 (as am I) and would be interested in watching that if it's archived (preferably on youtube).

@superslidetail:I agree the Waypoint website is terrible. I put them into my RSS feed and never looked back.

@nodima: I can't really take Patrick seriously because he wants to comment on difficult subjects and themes yet says stuff like this:

I have, at times, covered my eyes because it's unclear whether the game was going to show me a pornographic video…

- Yakuza 0, Waypoint article

I had ignored Waypoint for a while and that kind of odd "think of the children" attitude is exactly one of the reasons why.

"I try to but fall off" is a perfect explanation of my experience with GB alums. Danny's work on NoClip is excellent though.

I'll read some Waypoint stuff from time to time but that's about it. That being said I'll totally follow whatever Drew does.

I definitely do. I followed most of the interns when they left. I keep tabs on Patrick and Austin at Waypoint. I try and follow on Twitter the Mods and background staff too. I think the site's great but the people mean much more to me than the logo of their shirt.

I don't really read Waypoint but Austin is still a great follow on Twitter. I hope he comes back on the Beastcast soon, it's been a while. I unfollowed Patrick (along with a ton of other video game people) during the election when his feed got inundated with annoying centerist and neo-lib politics.

I still follow all the old interns form the Whiskey Media days (Nick especially has done well for himself) and I'm sure I'll keep following Drew when he's gone. Everyone else like Dave and Alexis seem pretty off the grid.

I follow Patrick and Austin on twitter. I've tried to listen to the Waypoint podcast, but something about their podcasting setup sucks because the audio is terrible and I can't do it. I do like Patrick and Austin's takes on things though. The Waypoint facebook and twitter pages regularly post these videos that Austin does about retrospectives on past games that you should check out. And they're usually well done and thought out short videos of Austin waxing philosophical on games. I would love if they did more content like that.

I follow Dave (@enemykite), Ana (@AHR), and Nick (@Babylonian) on Twitter.

No, not really. No one who has left Giant Bomb has done anything that has really held my attention or interest. I'm gonna miss Drew though.

I found Giant Bomb after they'd stopped doing internships, so I was never too familiar with those folks. Exceptions being Matt Kessler and Nick Robinson, although Nick was coincidental. I started following his stuff on Polygon and only recently found out he worked at GB back in the day. I have been following what Patrick and Austin (and the rest of their team) have been doing over at Waypoint.

Not really. The only concrete place I could actually follow is Waypoint and from the few videos I watched of theirs the style didn't really click with me.

I like GB for the core team so that even when the content isn't to my liking I enjoy the personalities. In all honesty I was always kinda lukewarm towards Patrick and Austin so that's also a prime reason why I don't visit Waypoint a whole lot.

I was interested in following Austin and Patrick, but the things I hear about Waypoint and how political they get are incredibly unappealing to me. I miss Dave a ton, but he was primarily a programmer, so other than checking in on his projects from time to time, I don't think there's really any other way I'd want to follow him. Other than that, there's not really anyone I'd want to follow. I'll miss Drew a ton, but I'm probably not going to follow what he does after he leaves.

Nope. Didn't really mind Patrick leaving. Austin was missed but Waypoint is not up my alley / not a community like GB. Dave and Alexis just aren't in public facing roles afaik. Drew is going to be tough, he's been one of my fave crew members for a while.

Like many others I tried Waypoint but the political bent of the content is a turn off. I really liked Austin when he was on GB but there the politics were a small part of the overall theme, on Waypoint they have moved much more into the foreground and that isn't what I look for in gaming sites.

I'll continue to follow Drew on twitter not that he is all that active on there (like Dave who I also follow) as I'm curious to see what he will be doing.

To be honest, I don't follow any ex-duder mostly because of limited time. But I like every ex-duders content on here. Though I've read a few Waypoint articles, watched a few short videos and only listened to a few Waypoint Podcasts when it was still new because I was curious. Will maybe look into more of their content when I find the time.

@wynnduffy: I looked at this and judging his writing and the gif he clearly wasn't too serious about, just look at his face. I would think that Patrick plays the game as much as the game plays Patrick.

Most Conservatives are certainly about "but think of all the children" moral protectionism than other groups. Ask older conservatives or democrats what they think about showing naked people on TV and I'm pretty sure they will give similar answers depending on what state they're coming from and what place they're grown up in since Moral policies often depend of cultural aspects also.

I would go as far to even say that National politics don't seem to have much to do with this compared to globalism and American values. Since Yakuza is a Japanese game it naturally also has all its footprints of what sets it apart from an American video game which has different sets of values. Why or why not you have tolerance for that is another individual question but it certainly doesn't have to do with Liberalism (and if it does it doesn't make any logical sense).

But I agree with the sentiment that Waypoint isn't for everyone because they do talk about politics that some people may don't like or they're talking too much about a specific thing. At least thats what I can gather by reading a bit into it, but I can be wrong of course.

@fezrock: Thats because it doesn't have anything to do with Liberalism or Conservatism, but general tolerance about real world politics and policies inside works of fiction. Americans being slightly upset about naked people is something the whole world is making fun of.

I think it falls in line with his comments about Cindy (that's the name right?) in Final Fantasy 15

@wynnduffy: Oh, you mean this one?

I think thats not a bad article and you're correct in assuming that "The Game plays them", but not only that. I think the stark contrast of the Party being dressed like a J-Pop rock band and one woman dressed up like this seems at odds with the writing itself, at least thats what the article is saying.

I think thats just Patrick being a prude at worst and that still way better articulated than lets say a immature commentary such as "yay, titties are good for us humans!", not to mention that Cindys design is a jab to race car girls. The article compares FF15 with games with other games that have good writing, such as The Witcher 3 to explain why FF15 has sub-par story. Not much else to criticise from this.

Whats funny about this is that FF15 is the most "American" Final Fantasy in terms of "being a game about a road trip" so I can see why some Americans would have problems with false representation, or lets say a more idealised version on it.

Hope you still read this though.

EDIT: Changed stuff because I found the article you've mentioned.

If we count Danny as an Honorary Duder, then I follow what he's been doing with NoClip.

As to Patrick and Austin - not really. I want to like Waypoint and feel a little guilty about not following them, but that site is a mess, all the political talk turns me off, and that podcast just doesn't click for me. It lacks the off-the-cuff chemistry that makes the BombCasts great. The Waypoint one is pretty much (1) Austin talks, (2) Patrick agrees with him, (3) then Danielle says something. It comes across as very stilted and all the "ummming" and "ahhhhing" drives me up the wall.

I still follow Patrick and Austin on Twitter, but that's almost entirely because I started while they were at Giant Bomb and never stopped when they left. I don't follow anyone else at Waypoint, and don't ever visit the site. I tried listening to Waypoint Radio because I'm always looking for new podcasts, but found it tedious for a lot of the reasons mentioned already.

While he was at Giant Bomb, I was impressed with Austin's ability to speak with nuance and consideration about social and political issues related to gaming. Even when I disagreed with him, I felt I could have a dialogue with Austin. Apparently that was due to the influence of Giant Bomb. Put him in a room with people who all strongly agree with him, on a site where the primary focus is the social commentary around gaming rather than the games themselves, and all nuance and consideration of an issue is lost. I already know the positions and the arguments I'm going to hear before I ever start up the podcast. That's because it's the same discussion I can find in any number of corners of the internet. It's why I stopped following sites like Polygon and Kotaku.

I'm not against political discussion. Politics is important. I listen to quite a number of political podcasts, from the Pod Save America guys to Free Thoughts from Libertarianism.org. But politics doesn't need to be everything in your life. Sometimes I just want to hear what someone whose opinion I came to respect thinks about the story and characters in The Witcher 3. Games are my escape, my self-care activity to use jargon the Waypoint crew would understand. If I want to hear someone express anxiety over the inauguration of Donald Trump, I have better options.

I don't have time in my life for more than one gaming outlet in all honesty.

And what little extra I might have, I prefer to spend at places that have a moredifferent philosophy than go to another gb.

I've checked out waypoint a few times and I wanted to like it because I like most of the people there and the gb connection . But the product just feels confused and aimless. I haven't figured out what they offer that's different than kotaku tbh. And I'm not a fan of kotaku's format.

Most of the main former Whiskey Media folks, sure. From GB proper, about the only one I don't follow is Brad Nicholson.

Not against it but none of them are doing anything interesting. Curious to see what Drew will do though.

All Whiskey Media alums, not just GB

Not really, but from time to time I'll check up on what Dave Snider is doing and quietly lament his departure.

I do to a point. I quickly realized that Patrick's content was becoming less...important to me. Austin is far too partisan and political for me to follow and I've not cared for what of Waypoint I went to. Same thing happened after the 1UP implosion. I listened to Rebel FM until Arthur Gies made me want to throw my phone out the window and I fell off of following others. I still follow Garnett Lee, John Davidson, and Shane Betenhausen on twitter.

Sure. I follow a lot of folks on twitter, check Waypoint/ listen to Waypoint Radio pretty regularly. I like what they've got going on over there. I also watch whatever Danny does with noclip cause holy shit did I love The Point. I still follow Alexis and Dave on Twitter but, as people have said, they've been quiet for a bit now. And I am definitely interested in whatever Drew gets up to afterwards.

Nah, not at all. I like Austin et al but as someone above said I want no politics or outrage around my game coverage, it's just so tiresome. Love it when Austin comes back to the pod however.

Now that Drew leaving has sunk in I'm looking forward to see what he's up to next. If there's one guy on the GB staff who I'd want to follow away from GB it's Drew, mans a star.

I'm subscribed to Waypoint Radio and listen to an episode now and then. But between the Bombcast, the Beastcast, and 8-4 Play I have really all I need in terms of video game podcasts.

Austin is da bomb but looking at Waypoint content maybe twice every month, it really shines how well he fit with the rest of the Giant Bomb crew.

I don't feel any kind of a connection with Waypoint staff/stuff. Maybe it's because he's the boss and it takes time to build, I don't know....

Patrick hasn't (really ever) done anything that interests me except he had some cool news scoops.

Probably same with Drew since he's more of a video guy.

And I just started thinking who I would follow if everyone eventually quit, but I think it would be only Jeff. None of the crew interests me as a person (except Jeff since he's probably the most entertaining person on this planet), but it's the connection that these guys have when they're together, it's really something special! These days I mostly feel it only in Beastcasts (Jeff Bakalar is a great addition and Dan seems to fit in nicely). West, get your shit together and crew refitted. Jeff, you just keep on G'ing.

Holy shit. LOL. I never liked Patrick much, mainly because of stuff LIKE that, but that pretty much takes the cake for me.