Link.

Tons of weapon tweaks (damage and reload speeds).

Best part for me: Helo gunners no longer have access to flares!

Patch is 2.2 gigs (live tomorrow the 4th), Armored core will add another 3 gigs.

@mosdl said:

Armored core will add another 3 gigs.

They're adding mechs?! Hellz yeah!

@mosdl said:

Armored core will add another 3 gigs.

They're adding mechs?! Hellz yeah!

I'm glad they buffed the M5K and PP2000. The other changes aren't very significant to me.

No flares for chopper gunners is the biggest change IMO.

Just downloaded this on PC after playing on Xbox for nearly a year. I hope my learning curve won't be too steep. I'm glad they are nerfing the range on the SOFLAM though. It's hard enough to drive tanks right now as it is. I think DICE might actually listen to their customers too well sometimes with as much as they flip flop on their updates.

@Jack268 said:

I'm glad they buffed the M5K and PP2000. The other changes aren't very significant to me.

They've buffed the M5K? Fuck man, that thing is already bullshit on CQ maps.

The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopter’s Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.

That's a pretty big change as well. 3-man choppers!

I'm buying BF4, which is totally going to be similar to BF3 by the way. In a patch post-launch, they'll add prone and the ability to get your TF2 hats ingame.

If only CoD could do this much tweaking. I would like that series alot more.

battlefield asks too much of my hard drive, so fuck it

Wow they threw the vehicle balance right out of the window. It was already hard to kill jets, unless you're another jet, but now it is the only air vehicle that is of use.

"FIM92 and IGLA now lock on to air vehicles at both lower altitudes and longer distances."

"Removed flares from gunner position in helicopters. With the right combination of unlocks, an attack helicopter could be effectively invulnerable to lock on missiles. Removing the flares from the gunner balances the attack helicopter against ground fire."

Who thought that this was balanced? I thought Battlefield was about team work and they're punishing the most teamwork demanding thing in the game. Lock on missiles take no skill they shouldn't be effective, they should act as a deterrent and drive choppers away from an area. Choppers already have to be wary of Jets, their most dangerous enemy, other choppers, lock-on weapons, dumb fire rockets, tanks, and don't forget laser painters + Javelin/Guided shell, if all else fails get a jet and fly it into the chopper. How is a chopper supposed to survive now?

It takes a lot of work and constant communication to keep an attack chopper alive and be effective, the payout equalled the work. Now any kid with a no skill lock-on weapon can take you out no matter what you do. How about nerfing the invincible jets? A good jet pilot can ONLY be taken out by another good jet pilot. I was looking forward to AK but now I don't even want to update the game.

@Akrid said:

The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopter’s Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.

That's a pretty big change as well. 3-man choppers!

They are already four man choppers...

@AlexW00d said:

@Jack268 said:

I'm glad they buffed the M5K and PP2000. The other changes aren't very significant to me.

They've buffed the M5K? Fuck man, that thing is already bullshit on CQ maps.

Eh, there were stronger options for CQ maps anyway. Even some ARs meant for mid-long range would outdo it at close range.

My 360 hard drive can't handle these Battlefield updates!

@big_jon said:

@Akrid said:

The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopter’s Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.

That's a pretty big change as well. 3-man choppers!

They are already four man choppers...

3-man attack choppers!

@Akrid said:

@big_jon said:

@Akrid said:

The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopter’s Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.

That's a pretty big change as well. 3-man choppers!

They are already four man choppers...

3-man attack choppers!

It's scouts only.