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3D Realms Lives On

Duke Nukem developers issue release on the state of the company.

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Everyone totally flipped out two weeks ago when it got out that 3D Realms, the company that has been working on Duke Nukem Forever since you were in short pants, was apparently shutting down. Various confirmations were delivered, rumors spread, and the whole thing sounded like a confusing mess. Since then, Take-Two has filed a suit against the company, and everything started sounding, well, even messier.

As it turns out, though, at least one part of the debacle was unfounded: 3D Realms isn't going to completely shut down. The company issued a release today declaring that the company "has not closed and is not closing." However, the development team working on Duke Nukem Forever has been let go due to a lack of funding. The company plans to "continue to license and co-create games based upon the Duke Nukem franchise."

The release also responds to some of the things put forth in Take-Two's lawsuit against 3D Realms and gets into some of the funding details surrounding Duke Nukem Forever. While Take-Two claims it paid $12 million to acquire the publishing rights to the game, that money was apparently paid to GT Interactive (which went on to rebrand as Infogrames and then Atari), not 3D Realms.

So, publisher-developer lawsuits aside, the "continue to license and co-create" Duke Nukem games sounds like the sort of thing that could eventually lead to the release of Duke Nukem Forever... but it more likely has to do with stuff like Duke Nukem Trilogy, which is an upcoming set of games for the Nintendo DS and PSP being published by Deep Silver later this year.
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Everyone totally flipped out two weeks ago when it got out that 3D Realms, the company that has been working on Duke Nukem Forever since you were in short pants, was apparently shutting down. Various confirmations were delivered, rumors spread, and the whole thing sounded like a confusing mess. Since then, Take-Two has filed a suit against the company, and everything started sounding, well, even messier.

As it turns out, though, at least one part of the debacle was unfounded: 3D Realms isn't going to completely shut down. The company issued a release today declaring that the company "has not closed and is not closing." However, the development team working on Duke Nukem Forever has been let go due to a lack of funding. The company plans to "continue to license and co-create games based upon the Duke Nukem franchise."

The release also responds to some of the things put forth in Take-Two's lawsuit against 3D Realms and gets into some of the funding details surrounding Duke Nukem Forever. While Take-Two claims it paid $12 million to acquire the publishing rights to the game, that money was apparently paid to GT Interactive (which went on to rebrand as Infogrames and then Atari), not 3D Realms.

So, publisher-developer lawsuits aside, the "continue to license and co-create" Duke Nukem games sounds like the sort of thing that could eventually lead to the release of Duke Nukem Forever... but it more likely has to do with stuff like Duke Nukem Trilogy, which is an upcoming set of games for the Nintendo DS and PSP being published by Deep Silver later this year.
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Always bet on Duke!

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WOULD THEY JUST FUCKING RELEASE IT ALREADY?!  MY GOD!!!


Talk about drawing out the hype...  3D Realms should get a damn Oscar for "Best Way To Dupe Your Fans" at this point.

If they do release DNF one day, though...I'll end up buying it, regardless of how much I fucking hate these douchebags at this point.
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wow, this is going to get ugly. still think DNF will always be that urban legend and never come out.

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I can't tell if this is incredibly awesome quite yet.

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This is all a publicity stunt gone wrong.  Duke Forever reveal at E3, coming this year.

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Sorry but I just don't care. I hate Duke Nukem as a character. He's just a huge douchbag. I could really care less about this game.

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This is madness make the game or don't they can't seem to decide here we go again...

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Oh, I can just imagine 3D Realms talking to potential investors for these future releases

Investors: "Why should we fund you?"
3D Realms: "Our development team is an innovative, dedicated group of guys that are well known for our work on the incredibly popular Duke Nukem series. We believe that if your company would back us, we would put out another stellar product that would appeal to the die hard fans, making more than what you put in"
Investors: "Take-Two thought you might say that..."

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Diamond said:
This is all a publicity stunt gone wrong.  Duke Forever reveal at E3, coming this year.
I can see it now. Over the next few days, Take Two Chairman Strauss Zelnick and Broussard set up a live forum debate between them. As the debate gets less and less civil, a banner drop behind them. "DNF: IN STORES NOW!"

And that's when the world explodes of extreme.
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Deep Silver sounds like the name of a side kick Duke would have.

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So....could they just put out the same game, give it a different name and call it a day?

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TheKidNixon said:
Diamond said: This is all a publicity stunt gone wrong.  Duke Forever reveal at E3, coming this year. I can ... [more]
The way I imagine it is like this.  E3 Microsoft conference, bunch of pretty good stuff, "one more thing...".  Make people wait 5 minutes and then start playing the Duke theme, seconds later set off fireworks on the stage, start showing footage, journalists go crazy and start biting each other.
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Diamond said:
TheKidNixon said: Diamond said: This is all a publicity stunt gone wrong.  Duke Forever reveal at E3, coming this year. ... [more]
I like our fantasy versions of E3 far more than the real thing.
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HAHAHA Suck it Take Two!

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Diamond said:
TheKidNixon said: Diamond said: This is all a publicity stunt gone wrong.  Duke Forever reveal at E3, coming this year. ... [more]
The way I imagine it is like this.  E3 Microsoft conference, bunch of pretty good stuff, "ah, just one more thing maam...".  Make people wait 5 minutes and then start playing the Duke theme, seconds later set off fireworks on the stage, severely injured journalists go crazy and start a lawsuit againt 3D Realms, Duke never comes out.
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Take Two still has every right to sue them, the money was supposed to fund the game they were developing and it's barely been seen up to now, and now it's been cancelled!

Twelve. Fucking. Years. I actually was in shorts back then, now I'm unemployed, need to shave and I'm whining on an internet forum. I just thought I'd reiterate that.

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The other side of this I think is that Take Two really come out of this looking like the bad guy. Yes, 3D Realms should finish the game at this point. But really, it is look more and more like T2 was trying to manipulate a really shitty situation in there favor, trying to bend 3DR over while they could and run off with the Duke IP on the cheap.

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I don't know anymore. First it's gone now it's back... It would just make more sense to mark Duke into a zombie

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This sounds too confusing to be true. This is a publicity stunt. No one would go through this just to say "Nah, we're not really SHUTTING down, you must have misunderstood!"

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Take-Two  "You are aware that 3D Relms has s*** on your legacy.  We are suing them for how they handled you."


Duke Nukem "Blow it out your A**!"

TT "Excuse me Mr. Nukem?|

DN "Eat S*** and die."

TT "Mr. Nukem.  Treating us like this will not secure the future of the release of Duke Nukem Forever.  I hope that you are aware of this."

DN "What are you? Some bottom-feeding, scum-sucking alge eater?"

TT "Please Mr. Nukem.  Just give us our money.  Please.  We are desperate."

DN "I think you need some down time..."

TT "If we let 3D Relms stay alive, will you go away?  Your scaring us."

DN "Shake it Baby!!!"

TT "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"  
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so much drama!

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Die!

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Not even god can stop Duke

Or in this case, not even Take Two

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Its all...part of the plan..

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DNF = Did not finish
it was true 10 years ago, and it is today to.
yes it is sad

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Still looks sweet. I don't care how you release it, just get it out there so we can play it, forgodsakes.

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That just shows you how LONG this game has been in development. GT Interactive hasn't existed for a very... long... time.

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duke nukem for the DS? Oh brother

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You can't kill the Duke! Still it sounds like it may be an even longer wait for Duke Nukem Forever if it is going to come out at all, this whole situation has been really stupid.

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I think 3D Realms can settle this lawsuit with Take-Two by ofering them the publishing rights to Duke Nukem Forever 2!!!

LOOL

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This must be a viral marketing scheme. I can just see them "settling" this dispute and doing a huge trailer and release date at E3.

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Well i am happy that one of my fav company is still alive. 

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Diamond said:
This is all a publicity stunt gone wrong.  Duke Forever reveal at E3, coming this year.
That will be Microsoft's big reveal.  Exclusive publishing rights granted to them.  Just saying to spread more 'rumors' around the interwebs.
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I think the whole fact of people losing their jobs cools my actual expectations of this being some elaborate hoax, to say nothing of the leaked design document. That might have them think twice before releasing the game, consider re-writing it from the bottom up. And we know how quickly they can make a turn around like that.

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As Jeff once said on the HotSpot; "WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR!?!?!?"

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Wait, so if they're not closing down. Why havent they issued this on their website that still says "Goodbye" with no real context as to why its there? On top of that, their online store has nothing available for purchase. I mean, for years up until a couple of weeks ago, you could get a jewel case CD copy of Duke Nukem 3D. They even dropped the price of $20 to $10 in lieu of it's release on Xbox Live Arcade.

Now, Apogee is not affected by the turn of events, which makes some sense. They may very well be the same company. But I cant imagine them (Apogee/3D Realms) being taken seriously anymore. That goes for Duke Nukem as well. His name and legacy of alien stomping gore splattering, hooker-tippingest badass continues to live on handheld format? That doesnt quite settle with me.

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Duke Nukem Forever 2 is coming! The sequel to the game that never was!

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I don't really care at this point. Take 2 are right in suing them. They gave them the money and they didn't deliver.

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Hail To The King Baby!

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ALLWAYS BET ON DUKE. Sorry somebody had to say it, this deserves at least a medium sized woop woop. Also take two gave 3drealms money for a separate unanounced title i have no sympanthy for them now i mean seriously.

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Well one thing has always remained true throughout all these rumors: Duke Nukem Forever will not be developed by the people that have supposedly been working on it for, what, 13 years or something? Firing the developers is usually just as good as killing the game/franchise itself.

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The whole serious of events surrounding this situation is fucking pathetic. 

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Enough already and just die a somewhat dignified death. If it takes 12 years to make a goddamn game, you don't need to be in the business.

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Guess what, DNF stopped being a funny joke and more of an annoyance 5 years ago, when everyone realized it was never coming out.

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jakob187 said:
WOULD THEY JUST FUCKING RELEASE IT ALREADY?! MY GOD!!!Talk about drawing out the hype... 3D Realms should get a damn ... [more]
Ummm... wow... Its not their fault, they didn't CHOOSE to do this to their fans. How do you think the people that are now out of work feel? Don't be ignorant. 3D Realms has done more then enough to earn their place in video game history.
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MordeaniisChaos said:
jakob187 said: WOULD THEY JUST FUCKING RELEASE IT ALREADY?! MY GOD!!!Talk about drawing out the hype... 3D Realms should get ... [more]
Name one other game that has taken 12 years to make and release...because it's not like they've had anything ELSE to be doing besides a revamp of Duke Nukem 3D for XBL...and I doubt THAT took too much time.
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Good God! Would someone please just take this out back and shoot it already.

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With all that money from the Duke Nukem Trilogy, they're gonna license a new engine and start from scratch with DNF. Game will ship Fall 2012

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Duke Nukem: Forever and Ever