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The Giant Beastcast: Episode 76

We're Bakalar and we've got plenty to talk including the PS4 Pro lineup, a tiny NES, bad PR campaigns, Overwatch mistakes, bowties, and a new Sonic movie?

The Giant Bomb East team gathers to talk about the week in video games, their lives, and basically anything that interests them. All from New York City!

Nov. 4 2016

Posted by: Vinny

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Let's go!

Edit: Best wishes to Mama Bakalar.

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Jeff, be well - you have many friends here, we all love you!

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Sending Mama Bakalar all my love. Get well soon!

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Best wishes, Bakalar. I hope that things get better for your family.

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Let's get Backalar into it!

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Thoughts are with you and your family Jeff. Sounds like a rough time.

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Stay strong Bakalar.

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It's not perfect - and it's really dumb that it doesn't sport a 4K Blu-ray player - but I don't hate the PS4 Pro. Being primarily a PC gamer, this seems very similar to upgrading my CPU or GPU after a period of time.

If somebody is new to consoles, go buy the original bundle that is ~$200.00, especially with Black Friday right around the corner. If you like your current system, keep what you have. If you have limited funds and need to buy select systems, hold off until Scorpio in 2017 (if not delayed, if it does't have a ridiculous price tag.)

But...if you have some extra money sitting around, can sell or trade in the original system for credit/funds against the PS4 Pro, it should be a decent upgrade to the system that gives additional storage and really good 1K framerates/graphics or early access to some type of 4K and HDR (primarily upscaled) output.

I do agree that this is only a bump in performance and not true 4K rendering, but I've certainly made similar, if not significantly more expensive, upgrades on the PC. I have a GTX 1080 in my current system and 4K at 60+ FPS is certainly hit or miss, depending upon the game and settings. If nothing else, people have more options available.

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Best wishes to Jeff's family, hope things work out.

Go out and hug your loved ones, kids!

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Best wishes to Jeff. Thinking of you buddy. Hope you are as good as you can be, the Giant Bomb family are always here for you.

Had me in tears myself, everyone go tell your loved ones they are exactly that, loved.

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I hope things get better for your family.

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Stay strong, Jeff. All the best to you and your family.

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Really sorry to hear your bad news Jeff. All the best to you and your family, stay strong brother!

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All the best to Jeff and his mom and family. My sister had a stroke 2 years ago. That shit is fucking scary.

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Love you Jeff! Best wishes to you and your mum. Hope things get better soon.

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Stay strong, Jeff! Lots of hugs from Denmark

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Oh god, i hate this conversation, this conversation needs to end now! STOP IT WITH THE SPIDERS! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

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Well wishes, Jeff. This community is certainly with you and your family.

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Oh jeez Jeff. Same with my mum. She has got better over time though. Time is the hardest thing though. Take care man, things will improve to a point. My uncle had a massive stroke too. Now he goes flying down the road on one of those mobility scooters to do his own shopping! I live near him so I still see him go whizzing past when I happen to be looking out of the window or walking up the road. Both are still going although my mum also has cancer and it's terminal but in a way her stroke makes it easier for her ironically as she forgets about that. She's with me at home and she has carers too so she is as comfortable as she can be for now.

Take care duder!

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1) All the best to Jeff and family. As the only son of a mother with serious medical issues, I empathize.

2) As a dedicated bow tie wearer, should I be nervous to finish listening to the episode?

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Sorry to hear that Jeff. Doesn't sound like that stuff gets any easier the older you get. Hope you're doing OK. See her as much as you can.

Going to a wedding tomorrow, and on Tuesday the mum of the bride had a stroke and she died Wednesday night. She was dying of cancer anyway but we hhoped she'd make it. I was supposed to skype the wedding for her, hoping that she'd make it that far.

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for real love all y'all and sending positive vibes Jeff's way

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Hugs, Jeff.

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Jeff, love you. Anytime you or GB any member needs to vent, you got for it. We're here for you, wishing you and yours well :)

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It sounds like there's a difference in process between Native 4K and Upscaling but why is it important to consumers? If I'm sitting at home playing a game, will I even notice a difference? Or is it just a thing for extreme technology snobs to argue about?

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Sorry to hear you're having a rough time, Jeff. Best wishes to you and your mom.

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All the hugs to Jeff Hugalar.

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I'm sorry to hear about your mom jeff :( but wishes that she gets better. <3

Edit: that conversation about spiders almost had me in tears I was so uncomfortable :/

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So sorry to hear Jeff. Been there - it's not easy, but you have great support from people who care.

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First off sorry to hear about your mom Jeff. wishing you and your family well.

now kind of a correction for the Pro stuff. I think their problem understanding it is because they talk about it like it's the tiniest bit more powerful than the regular ps4 or something. It's a bit more than double the gpu power, 30% faster cpu, more ram for games, better memory bandwith. I mean, it's not the increase of a new gen but it's still a pretty big bump. The Cerny DF article detailed a lot of this tech and he also talks about extra hardware built in that helps with this stuff.

Vinny also seems really confused about the power needed to run native 4k stuff. There are already like 18 games(here)that are confirmed to be native 4k on the Pro. And no that doesn't just mean it's a 4k signal it means 3840x 2160 res.

Most big AAA games going forward aren't going to be native but instead Cerny said a lot will render at a higher res than 1080 (like 1800p) and then use the checkerboard technique to get the rest of the way to 4k. Which even though it's not native, people have been really impressed by how close it does look. DF said for the price this seems like a great upgrade after seeing these games in person.

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My favorite dumb marketing thing
My favorite dumb marketing thing

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The Rock strikes again! Also, Jeff, the GB community is wishing you and your family the best man.

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All the best, Jeff <3

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I feel for you Jeff. I hope things get better soon.

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The humor on this podcast hasn't dulled a bit. The Beastcast has been the sharpest, funniest podcast around since the first mic check. Love you guys!

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Stay strong Jeff!

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Jeff's position in the constantly rotating chair is one of the main reasons I listen to the Beastcast - so happy this podcast introduced me to him and his work.

All the best to you and your family Jeff - we all love you!

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That is rough... Best wishes to Bakalar's family from South America.

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Stay strong Jeff. My dad actually was dead from a heart failure for a few minutes, recovered, but it was similarly hard and the same sort of wake up call for me.

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this is by far my favorite moment in the history of #brands

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all the best jeff- the whole crew down here is pulling for ya!

100% agree with @alex re: male fashion. the uniformity of it all is distressing. walking through the port authority or penn circa 5.30pm you'd believe the robots truly have inherited the earth.

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love ya jeff, so glad to have you bakalar, best wishes to you and your family!

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The neon wielder in Infamous is Fetch.

A live-action Sonic anything doesn't sit well with me at all. Along with the whole 2006 mess, Sonic X had that kid character too and if I remember correctly he's not liked.

When Alex said Tails cosplayers my mind went to Tales of cosplayers instead :p

One stunt that flopped hard was with Capcom and Dragon's Dogma Online. They were trying to find success Square Enix had with FFXV and those guys in the car and tweeted a high-res picture of some orcs. Naturally, they were mocked for it. Companies latching onto community memes is not good, but them trying to force a meme is pretty bad.

The sameness of men's fashion, especially when really formal, is pretty depressing.

Never back down on your Dragonball fan-ness, Vinny :p

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Well wishes.

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Alex, do you realize what Pandora's box you've opened with the Sonic comments?!

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Sonic in the "real world" was literally the plot of that Sonic X anime, Vinny.

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Krillin defeated Smelly Guy in the world martial arts tournament by farting on him, but Yamcha hangs out with a flying, shape-shifting cat. Tough decision.

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Best wishes for the Bakalar family! I hope everything will be ok.

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Much love to the Bakalars. Thanks for sharing with us, Jeff!

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