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Unfinished: Doom Eternal

Brad is back from HELL and is ready to tell us all about his trip!

Sometimes we look at a game before it's done. When that's the case? Well... it must be Unfinished.

Jan. 21 2020

Cast: Jeff, Brad

Posted by: Jan

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Doom Eternal

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Boom Doom

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Just what I always wanted from DOOM, third person platforming...

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The Brad Slayer is back baby!

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Hmmmm. Looks like 100% of what I want out of a Doom game plus about 10% of things I really don't. I am extremely not sold on the platforming and the floaty power-ups. Those are trending too far in the "video game ass video game" direction for me.

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Looks pretty cool. I really hated the level design in the first game and it made me stop playing (just really felt like all the levels were he same and were designed by game designers lol). But if they lean more into that and just make the level design like mario, that could be cool.

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@nillock said:

Just what I always wanted from DOOM, third person platforming...

I wonder if the devs played a lot of Celeste or something and got hooked on that style

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Radical

Brad is the ground hog of doom

Thank you

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I really liked Doom 2016 but for some reason this is just looks completely dull to me. I don’t know why - it’s largely more of the same thing I loved four years ago. Then again, maybe that’s why?

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Meh, looks like the same Doom as last time.

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Hype! Look forward to ripping and tearing. Thanks for the sneak peek.

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"Hell Division" is an excellent band name.

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Why did they insist on putting lame ass platforming in a fucking FPS? I was looking forward to this game. It's now a solid pass.

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Jeff with full on "new born Dad" look going, gotta respect it.

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The platforming in Doom 2016 very well done, so I'm not too worried. I basically have complete confidence in this dev team to pull Doom off. I guess I'm setting myself up for disappointment :)

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Looks like something I want to play immediately, but I guess I'll wait for two months...

I don't mind first-person platforming at all, even if it's probably not as slick as something like Titanfall 2. Shooting still looks great, or even better with all the additions.

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This looks great and I really want to play it but I'm going to wait until the game's story content is reviewed. That first trailer's words echoed narratives used by transphobic and xenophobic politicians (without much in the way of irony). Despite being called out for it, there was no apology or even acknowledgement from the developers if I've recalled correctly.

So we'll see if the man-children behind the trailer wanted attention and were subsequently scared off from going in that direction (or mis-represented the crux of the story), or if the developers are indeed telling a shitty, thinly veiled 'fictional story' underneath it all. Cause if so they can rot in the hell of their own making. Hah, see! Aren't thinly veiled digs the FUNNIEST and SMARTEST and most SURREPTITIOUSly ineffectual?

Anyway, I'll be disappointed if I'm not able to play it but, you know, there are plenty of games not comparing me to a demon so I guess I'll just play them instead...

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Yeah, platforming in FPS is generally a deterrent for me. Even in Metroid Prime where it was supposed to be good.

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Doom is my only friend.

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When Brad got to the slayer room battle, I felt like my face was melting off. HYPED 4 HELL.

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This is awesome. More deep dives like this!

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I'm also not sold on the platforming and additional systems, but this team earned so much good will with me in 2016, I can't help but assume it's gonna be good until I see otherwise for myself.

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Doom Oranges

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One of the best parts of DOOM 2016 was its commitment to the self-serious bit. In contrast, I don't think I like those "It's a video game!" powerups all over the place, it's just 5% too schticky.

Still looks wicked fun though, didn't realize how ready I was for a sequel until now.

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This looks fun. But, man, do I hate the menu design.

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This video all but alleviated the concerns I had after the delay. It looks like Doom, except better, and there's more of it.

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Edited By LeStephan

Fuck yeah, more platforming. LOVED the platforming in 2016 could definitely do with more :D

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Edited By Subscryber

This looks amazing. It's basically fixing most of the problems I had with Doom 2016. More variety, a bit more cartoonish, just more "fun." Really looking forward to this.

But I have to ask, who actually thinks this level of motion blur looks good? It's a freakin' smear. Hopefully you can turn it off on console. I believe you could in the original.

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Like a Brad out of Hell!

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I'm very much a cover and snipe shooter player, so Doom isn't really my thing, but I appreciate that they've doubled down on the nonsense. "1UP" made me laugh.

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Hell's Dead Parkour!

https://www.giantbomb.com/shows/best-of-giant-bomb-156-moms-dead-parkour/2970-11135

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@ahifi said:

This looks great and I really want to play it but I'm going to wait until the game's story content is reviewed. That first trailer's words echoed narratives used by transphobic and xenophobic politicians (without much in the way of irony). Despite being called out for it, there was no apology or even acknowledgement from the developers if I've recalled correctly.

So we'll see if the man-children behind the trailer wanted attention and were subsequently scared off from going in that direction (or mis-represented the crux of the story), or if the developers are indeed telling a shitty, thinly veiled 'fictional story' underneath it all. Cause if so they can rot in the hell of their own making. Hah, see! Aren't thinly veiled digs the FUNNIEST and SMARTEST and most SURREPTITIOUSly ineffectual?

Anyway, I'll be disappointed if I'm not able to play it but, you know, there are plenty of games not comparing me to a demon so I guess I'll just play them instead...

It must be so tiring being so triggered by everything. Yawn.

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l always liked dashing in FPS games and was disappointed COD: AW and Halo 5 were the only two to do it well.

This looks like such a beefy more badass version of Doom (2016) and Im into it; im curious how robust that dungeon in your ship is...like could that be built out to be it's own little rogue-light game?

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@inevpatoria: yes! i came away thinking the same thing. The colors to the layout it's all just so ugly and clunky.

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I don't really play FPS games, but Doom just feels so satisfying to play and Eternal is looking like all that and more. Can't wait!

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Looks like a lot of fun, thanks guys

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Yes, give me the platforming! If Doom becomes more like Metroid Prime I will only like it more.

@ahifi: wait this is the first I'm hearing of this? I would be very disappointed if the devs behind Doom turn out to be bigots. Like, what the Hell.

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Missed opportunity to say back from the bfg division

https://youtu.be/98dMs-kElKc

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Brad and Doom are among the great combinations of things

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Doom Guy's still angry everyone pronounces his name wrong, it's french.

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Some of this looks SEUM inspired

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First platforming is very rarely done well, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt in this case.

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This looks fun. But, man, do I hate the menu design.

Yeah, for real the menu and UI look straight out of an N64 game. The presentation on all that stuff looks weird compared to Doom 2016, but I guess it's a stylistic choice.

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Edited By Humanity

I am looking forward to more Doom but I can’t deny a growing feeling of trepidation from the sheer amount of 13/15 and bars filling up and upgrade wheels..like wow..this is a very Ubisoft-ass looking string of upgrade screens. Also I have to agree with some comments below that it all looks really jarring and doesn’t flow well? Even the huge prompts on the monitors in your home base just look bad and not sleek at all?

I just recently played through Halo 5 and I don’t really like the way Halo plays and never have, but there was something extremely comforting about the very narrow, corridor shooter experience of barreling forward through combat encounters without any distractions.

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What do you think the real estate cost is in the Hellified Zones?

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What do you think the real estate cost is in the Hellified Zones?

A lot. Satan runs a tech startup and he pays well.

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Edited By Lajiaya

I think more people are going to be put off by the apparent fact that you have to pay attention to enemy weaknesses rather than just shooting everything in the face with whatever, than by the platforming or upgrade systems. Definitely the people who were put off by glory kills aren't going to want anything to do with this, obviously. (Not me though, this looks really fun).

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Edited By BladedEdge

The one and only push-back I will say to Brad's views coming off of playing this game is that no, a specific difficulty isn't the canonical correct way to play Doom. The correct way to play Doom, or any game like it, specifically regarding difficulty, is whatever difficulty lets you experience it in the manner the Difficulties Brad mentioned let him enjoy/engage with it.

I completely reject the idea that if your not up to the challenge a specific version of a game demands of you, too bad for you/your doing it wrong/the only acceptable response is to tell you to get good. Anything else, to me, is a antiquated notion that harkens back/is based off the incorrect idea that "If you don't play this in the way I did/do, your doing it wrong.

The game looks great, I look forward to playing it. I just reject the notion that if for me to get the experience Brad or others can on higher difficulties I need to play it on an easier difficulty setting, I am doing it wrong.