Dwarf Fortress, wish Dave did more with the game, wouldn't mind watching Patrick try it.

Tales of Maj'Eyal! It's on Steam and everything!

Though I wouldn't be opposed to some online Nethack over Telnet like what Ian showed off during his last week at the office.

You should've put Rogue up there for kicks

I voted for Binding of Isaac, but I think "Don't Starve" would be a good addition as well.

The Binding of Isaac. TAKE THE FUCKING PLUNGE, GOTY 2011 TAKES NO PRISONERS

That too!

I vote for UnNetHack with this tileset. I think it will break him.

As much as I love the Binding of Isaac he needs to play King's Field: The Ancient City seriously.

Baroque, either the PS2 or Wii version. Such a strange, wonderful entry in the genre.

ToME is really good, I'd probably be okay with watching him play that.

Castle of the Winds quite obviously.

I think DayZ is the most roguelike like experience there is.

FTL has that free expansion coming out pretty soon, so I vote for that.

Yup!

Dungeons of Dredmor.

You know, that's not a terrible idea. Maybe not suitable for a multiple entry feature, but could be interesting given his viewpoints on the term roguelike. Not saying that the dead horse needs any more kicking, but there might be some value in looking at what influenced the recent turn in trends of game design.

A game of Civ 5 on the biggest map, hardest difficulty, max civ count, max city states, and raging barbarians.

My real choices would be FTL and Don't Starve, but I voted for Teleglitch because not enough people know about that game. Don't Starve would be amazing though. So many crazy random things happen in that game.

I'd say Don't Starve. Might as well wait for the new Binding of Isaac game at this point.

@arbitrarywater: Wait it's free? I might actually have to play more FTL, curses!

I really don't think that most straight turn-based roguelikes would be super fun to watch someone struggle through. Maybe if he had an expert giving him hints. Dwarf Fortress could work since its only half a roguelike and has the emergent narrative thing gong on. Teleglitch, Issac, FTL, and the other "roguelik-likes" would work fine though.

DoomRL. No particular reason; I just really like that game.

Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack. Nethack.

I really think he should play nethack. that or SLASH'em

@shagge: DoomRL would be an interesting choice since Derek Yu, the creator of Spelunky, made some graphics for it.

Anyway, leaving aside the whole mess of what the term "roguelike" means, I do think it should be a game where Patrick can have a clear goal to reach and lots of weird hidden stuff to discover.

Tales of Maj'Eyal is what I was going to recommend, though it was really neat to see Ian's Nethack session... now I'm conflicted.

Please.

FTL eats these games for breakfast.

Edit: with that in mind Hoplite would be a good appetizer.

@blacklagoon: Never knew that. That's cool. Also parsed that as Ronny Yu for a second and got really confused.

FTL

@earlessshrimp said:

As much as I love Nethack, we both know that it'd be pretty incomprehensible to follow on a livestream.

Though, the idea of a Patrick reaction GIF when he puts a wand of cancellation into a bag of holding five hours in makes me tingle all over.

If you nerds think there is even a remote chance of Patrick playing ToME or Nethack, I don't think you know Patrick very well.

FTL, Don't Starve, or The Binding of Isaac seems the most likely. Teleglitch would be cool too, though you have to get SO good at knifing enemies to conserve ammo.

ADOM. It's like nethack, but better.

@bisonhero: I feel like you hit the nailgun on the head with Teleglitch. Yeah, +1 for that. It's gorgeous visually, so be great to watch.

@bisonhero: Yeah, way to stick it to those lameass nerds, bro! *FISTBUMB* Just watch the end of the latest Spelunking with Scoops you pathetic dorks, Patrick made it clear he was only thinking playing of real man's games, like Binding of Isaac, La-Mulana, and... uhhh... Nethack...

FTL.

Though Binding of Isaac is pretty amazing.

@blacklagoon: I know Patrick better than he knows himself. There is no way he would stick with Nethack.

How about Rogue? No more -likes. Play the real thing.

@bisonhero: But your statement wasn't that he wouldn't stick with it - it was that he wouldn't play it at all. And you were being a real condescending ass about it.

I love Binding of Issac, but it would make for awful streaming.

go 3ds or DS, Shiren the Wanderer or Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series.

He should play Rogue.

DoomRL. I'm not sure how interesting it would be to stream, but it's incredibly high quality and a hugely surprising amount of fun. One of the more lightweight roguelikes around, totally easy to pick up and play without delving into the tomes and tomes of detail you need to really appreciate Nethack or a traditional roguelike. It's really interesting how well it replicates the Doom experience in a turn based style, too. It has a sort of incredible amount of stuff in it for a free game. The tileset was even drawn by Derek Yu, the Spelunky guy -- so we have a tie in!

I voted for Nethack but I know that FTL is a more reasonable and approachable game to do.

@patrickklepekNetHack, DoomRL, Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead is a good range of what roguelikes have to offer. Nethack is a very traditional roguelike where you run into stuff and kill it. DoomRL is pretty neat because you get guns. You can kill stuff from a distance and target your shots. Cataclysm: DDA is a zombie survival roguelike with a large open world with cars and shit. No corridor crawls. There are three unique roguelikes right there. I don't expect Patrick to stick with any of them but a good run or three of each would be fun to watch.

For newer roguelikes with graphics that are still fairly traditional there is Dungeons of Dredmor and Sword of the Stars: The Pit. Dungeons of Dredmor is kind of funny and I haven't played The Pit so I can't comment.

Also, Nethack has a leaderboard so that could be interesting.

He should definitely play Rogue.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup

I really got into that for a while a year or so ago.

I've got a feeling none of the games listed would scratch the itch that Dark Souls and Spelunky does with Patrick. Maybe Binding of Isaac?

I think Patrick says he enjoys the mastery of the mechanics and his skill progression as a player he gets from those games (that's what I like in those games). I might be wrong here, and I'm sure some people will disagree, but I feel like none of the rogue-like(-like) listed have this degree of skill mastery (except Isaac). There's a lot more RNG in those games than there is Spelunky, and there is no-RNG in Dark Souls. I guess people who've played those game more than I have might tell me otherwise, that you can overcome the RNG; but from what I've played of them I feel the swings in luck are way more punishing.

I guess what I'm saying is that those games didn't satisfy what Spelunky and Dark Souls did for me, except Isaac. I should go back to Isaac. I vote for Isaac.

Anyone has any recommendation for someone who liked Spelunky and Dark Souls?

Patrick really should play La Mulana. It's much less covered than the other games on the list (Brad even played a lot of Rogue Legacy on a bunch of shows) and much harder than anything else.

He's already going to play La Mulana even though that isn't a roguelike. FTL is more RNG than skill, so not that... (plus that iPad version is still coming so he'll probably play that rather than burn himself out now). Nethack may be too over his head...

Binding of Isaac it is then.

I would like to see him play FTL because it takes the genre in a compete different direction, if not something more traditional.

Watching Partick trying play dwarf fortress would be such an amazing clusterfuck.

Binding of Isaac. I do not want to watch someone play FTL.