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For me, it was just the notion that they were tired of being forced to make content for growth at GB by people above them. Obviously, that's what corporations always want, but it was never apparent in their work. If anything, some of their stuff was so niche and weird that I wondered how they got away with making it.

It was surprising to hear Nextlander speak about that especially after Dan tweeted this when they left: "The guys that left Giant Bomb today helped shape something special in the gaming industry - something genuine, honest, and raw. GB always felt like a true representation of its staff and their interests rather than content mill bullshit driven by SEO or industry trends."

Like with a lot of things, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

@otterchaos:

I'm worried what happens to some features that fans love. Alex, for example, was largely responsible for booking guests for the night shows as well as guest lists during GOTY. Will someone at GB be given the unenviable task of filling his shoes? Will we now see those things "transfer" to NL? Or will it just go away?

@kunakai:

To be clear, I personally don't believe there's any bad blood between them. It's just that NL chose one group over the other instead of covering E3 on their own and people are going to wonder why. I don't understand your point about the significance of the history of working together because they have way more of that with the group they just left.

The boring answer could just be location. I know they did the SGF remote, but maybe Vinny and Alex could make the trip to Waypoint's studio for their upcoming shows.

Yes, Red Ventures, the ones controlling GB's salary and budget based on the success of subscriptions. Same with Vice and Waypoint now that they are also doing that.

I don't mind that Nextlander is essentially doing the same things as GB since they were part of those meetings that came up with those ideas in the first place.

It's unfortunate that Jeff is not receiving any of the monetary goodwill that is being thrown at Nextlander and is almost being punished for not being greedy and not allowing fans to give GB more support beyond 35 or 50 dollars a year.

The weird part for me here is Waypoint's involvement. From a business and PR perspective, I understand why they would partner up with Nextlander for E3 because the numbers look better when combined but given that they are fighting over the same audience, the perception(whether intentional or not) is that they are ganging up on GB while they're weak.

Pre and post shows were common, but GB is the first that I know of that had the audacity to talk over them live.

Vinny and Alex have yet to reveal what they're up to, but aside from Ben, all the people that left are still making some form of content that appeals to GB fans. In a weird way, even though they've technically lost a lot of people, the roster of talent is still growing if new people are brought in to whatever GB will become.

The porn industry is often ahead of the curve and dictates business and tech innovations.

On the technical side, they still haven't totally fixed the distortion that sometimes happens when people talk at the same time which made me switch to the audio version to get a clearer discussion.

Ben was the last one on staff that regularly uses Twitter and he was great at it. RIP GB staff tweets feed.

I know it's not technically GB, but people saying there's no content for Monday obviously haven't been listening to Brad and Will's Techpod.

Regarding the amount of content, I find it hard to criticize given that so many other games media have been shut down while GB is still standing after so long. Whether or not you like their output, they've earned the right to be trusted that they at least know what it takes to survive.