@dontatme: I wasn't worked up tho? You're the one who came back to it twice like a week after the fact. But again, you don't want to/didn't want to actually have this conversation so stop adding shit to it
but thanks for the condescension of implying I was "worked up" about a comment about melee lmao
I mean, as I said before just stating a view count for tournaments factors literally nothing into it, especially if you try to tout it having more viewers than ultimate. The smash community loves to cherry pick numbers but never consider time zones, who’s playing at those times, etc. for instance allow me to cherry pick and remind you during that ENTIRE tournament except for top 8 ultimate blew melee out of the water. But again, that’s not important
People say melee is dying because it’s fucking extremely predictable and to be honest, the people shouting about the meta shifting are just delaying the inevitable. If your definition of “living” in let’s say a handful of years is having strong local scenes with the few crts left in existence then yes, melee will never die
Also the golden state example is like a laughably bad one but I don’t really feel like having this discussion because I know you don’t care to actually be honest about this shit, so see ya
Edit: for the record, a good part of me still enjoys melee. I’m just not chilling with my head in the sand pretending it’s so cool and varied nowadays and that the meta is shifting and all that. Top 8s at significant tourneys will always be some combination of Fox/falco, Marth, ics, pika, and maybe puff. You’re not gonna see leffen whip out his mewtwo to win evo. That isn’t exciting to me anymore.
@dontatme: I mean, zain having good ideas for the puff matchup is not learning the hbox matchup, which is the actual problem, which is what Ben was saying with that whole thing. His point isn't that puff is some unwinnable matchup, but that hbox is so good that his style of puff has basically zero counterplay at this point. Hell even at pount, mango looked red hot all top 8 even sending hbox to losers, and as soon as hbox got to grands it was BUSASS against mango for two sets straight.
Also putting view counts is 100% irrelevant due to the fact that it factors nothing in other than "look at my big number please like my game". That's some twitch chat logic that doesn't mean anything for the actual life of the game itself.
I really enjoyed melee in the past and still do somewhat, but to act like its some extremely healthy game, and not dying at least a little bit, in 2019 is delusional
I'm pretty sure they put out the loose schedule for the games at evo. I don't remember exactly what it was but I do know DBFZ finals are on Saturday, which makes sense seeing as it takes a long time and SFV didn't end until like 4 am est last year partially due to that. Would've loved to see it back on sunday though.
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