Poll The Price is Right: Switch (753 votes)
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"$1 Bob."
But seriously, I expect the base console to be $250-300, but it won't come with a lot of the accessories shown. The docking station, pro controller, and the Joy-Con controller will probably be sold extra or as part of a $400 bundle. Also, I would guess that storage will be handled by an SD card (or some variant), and to get decent storage you will need to pay extra.
i'm sayin the screen and a joy-con for a hot $300.
maybe throw in a dock, pro controller and battery pack for an extra $100 with a 'switch premium' package ($400).
@darth_navster: @mellotronrules: the idea there will be no dock in an initially launch docent makes scene for what there trying to do with there system right now.
I think that "dock" was more than just a charging station and it's silly to think they'll sell it without one.
$250 at the most for whatever the base model is. I'm basing that on the size of the device and Nintendo's audience. For that price and assuming it can play Wii U games, I'll probably pick it up.
Probably being a little optimistic though.
@gnomeonfire: im inclined to agree, though it would make it simpler for devs to have just one spec to shoot for.
@gnomeonfire: @uppercaseccc: But I never said that the docking station wouldn't be there at launch. All I'm saying is Nintendo will likely have their cheapest SKU be just the unit itself. This will appeal to the segment of their audience who are only interested in portable gaming. A second, more complete SKU with a docking station will also be offered for people who want to play at home.
Also, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "they're trying to do with they're system right now". From the video, it seems that the Switch is just as capable without the dock as it is with it. I can't imagine they'll have extra processing power in the dock. It would add unnecessary complication to the design and would feel very unlike Nintendo.
@darth_navster: The name of the console is derived from being able to switch between playing mobile and playing console. The dock looks necessary for console play. To release a version incapable of doing both would be up ending the core marketing message.
I'd be very surprised if this console sold without the dock. The entire premise of the console is modularity, and to position one viewing/playing method as an optional mode rather than a necessity is to doom that option, as things like the Kinect, Move, Playstation Eye, etc. have proven.
Selling without the dock sounds like it would make sense to cut costs but I bet that thing is just a fancy HDMI adapter with charging. Even with a fancy shape it would cost next to nothing to make but kind of defines what the console is.
Definitely a game changer though if it somehow does more (extra processing?) so that it CAN be cut out. Imagine the gamepad alone costing $200 barebones with just the removable controllers then the dock for $50, or of course a kit for $250. Makes for three options but you get the absolute lowest cost to get in.
@gnomeonfire: You make a good point about the branding, but I think that the pull of the market's demands will compel Nintendo to offer a base SKU without a dock. My reasoning for this is that Nintendo has a large fanbase of children who almost exclusively play on the 3DS or tablets. They likely won't have the purchasing power to buy a $400 console, and for many of them the idea of being tied to a TV and couch is unappealing. For them, I suspect a base model would be all that they need.
Of course, this is all idle speculation!
$399... For the basic Switch console and a Joy-Con controller.
If you want to play it on your TV, the docking station will be sold separately for $149. The Joy-Con Grip, the central block for both Joy-Con halves, will be $30, doubling as a battery pack / charger for the Joy-Con controller. The Pro controller will retail at $60, and replacement Joy-Cons (because you will inevitably lose one half or accidentally swallow one) will go for $50, which will get you both halves (you can't buy just the left or right half separately).
I hope I'm wrong.
@gaff: I have to imagine that for the first few months you'll have to buy them together as that is the main feature of the console. Only after 8 - 12 months will they sell them as separate products. Depends on what is in that docking station though
I mean, it's a $200 console, right? Ninty don't go expensive with displays, or silicon, or ergonomics.
It's an nVidia tablet SoC updated to Pascal (256-512 CUDA cores, depending how much Ninty were prepared to pay for the SoC - more cores clock lower to get better power efficiency but I wouldn't be shocked for Ninty to pay badly and get a smaller SoC out of it), clock up when attached to a TV to hit enough perf for a 1080p output but be quite happy not to get much past a 720p30 system on the go.
That's how you build it power-efficient enough to get it to play games for 6 hours when you're not allowed to much much more power than the video decoder out of a standard tablet.
Look forward to finding out more details but it seemed like they were revealing a $200 tablet with accessories and TV dock in their videos. And nVidia have been spending a lot of time getting their low end and mobile focused small chips to be totally fine with GTA V or Skyrim with 2K textures.
We're talking about something fast enough to eclipse a Wii U but that's a 0.35TF GPU (aka duct tape 12 together and you're playing with the PS4 Pro) so we're looking at nVidia showing off a 2014 GeForce GT 710 as the ballpark they need to craft into an efficient mobile GPU. We've got the Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet showing an old design hitting 0.3TF in a tablet form factor. The newer SoC in the Shield Android TV and Pixel C is 0.5TF.
This is tech from 2014 that cost $299 at the time including the tablet. We've got to be expecting that for battery life reasons that this can't be going after an actual XB1 (1.x TF) so they build it wide, clock it low and spend a bit more on the chip than it would otherwise cost to get peak efficiency but that's still not really making a massive price hike over these old Tegra tablets. Nice shunk die from the 14nm process, Pascal efficiency gains. But it's a $200 tablet in early 2017, right?
@alistercat: If I was an optimistic man, I would say that the docking station would act as external storage for the base unit and where legacy controllers (like the Wiimote and potentially the Gamepad?) can connect to, which would be useful when the Virtual Console would make the jump to include Wii and a select few Wii U titles.
Honestly though? The Switch docking station will just have a HDMI connector, audio connector, a single USB port (to connect an external drive to it). However, it will still be released in "the launch window" of the base unit, because it makes more sense to position it as a successor to the 3DS first, and the Wii U second.
Again, I hope I'm wrong.
@uppercaseccc: @gnomeonfire: i think you're right that the dock is a key piece of the overall strategy, but i can't believe there's anything in there beyond a proprietary audio/video pass-thru and charging. the general message of the trailer/teaser seems to be "this thing adapts to fit into your life." if there is actual game-processing guts inside that dock- that seems like a surefire way to ensure the game-playing experience is inconsistent across use cases, and antithetical to the (admittedly speculative) marketing message.
but until we learn more, it's anyone's guess.
$200 Tegra tablet with a 1200p IPS panel.
Updated SoC (that's not even current die-shrink and Pascal efficiency levels) moving from .035 TF to 0.5 TF (third of an XB1), partially thanks to being docked/powered in the TV form-factor. [Worth saying that nVidia may be... somewhat optimistic in their peak GPU perf numbers vs typical sustained loads that don't eat batteries and melt tablets vs the console TF figures - but these are all pretty old SoC designs.]
This isn't what Ninty are selling but this is the sort of stuff nVidia were already playing with in recent years and didn't end up selling great without a reputable brand behind it. If we're looking for how cheap Ninty could make and sell this new system, there's no doubt they could do perfectly fine with a $200 system (especially if the only included accessories outside of the tablet are the controller sides, docking station, and the empty cradle for the controller sides so it slides into a controller shape without the tablet in there for TV use - sell everything else as accessories from the tiny controllers to the Pro options).
The price is wrong, Switch.
I laughed way too much at that. XD
@kingbonesaw: Sigh... You're probably not wrong. Oh, Canada
I'm going to guess it is going to go around $350 though. That just seems like a good price and to be honest... I'd still get one for that amount. I haven't had a Nintendo console since the Gamecube. I love the 3DS, but I feel the itch for some console quality Nintendo games and since I don't own a WiiU, this seems like the perfect opportunity to jump in. Here's hoping they have some sort of backwards compatibility, because I'm dying to play Bayonetta 2 finally.
$200 or bust
If it's truly going to be their new entry into the mobile market as well as the home market I think anything more will kill that machine. Especially as it probably wont be the all encompassing multimedia device the others are.
I'm guessing $350, although maybe $300. A dock-less model at $250 (if possible) is about as optimistic I'd get about price.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was $399 to prop themselves up with PS4 and Xbox One. Make themselves look like one of the big boys?
My primary concern is that this system won't be very powerful if most of the guts are in that tablet thing. So I'm kind of hoping it will be at least 300, just to make sure it has some decent parts in it, I'd be totally fine with a 400 dollar price point.
I'd be shocked if it wasnt at least $350+, and I'm confident it will be $400. And I'm curious what game they will decide to package with the system. They showed a lot of footage of Skyrim, so I'll go with that.
ITT: people who don't understand console business, or simply saying what they *want* it to sell for.
$300 is the *lowest* this will come out at, but $349 is more likely. It being the home option AND the mobile option gives Nintendo an excuse to sell it at a full price, and Nintendo hardly ever sells consoles at a loss.
Release SKU will have console, dock, joycon. If they decide to push a SKU with parts removed, it will be after, though maybe not by long.
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