This just put the icing on my day, the fall of EA. Wonderful...*chants 2K 2K 2K*

I just wanna try out the new Jam. I've been playing Jam TE on my genesis lately and see if it's worth buying this new one.

FUCK NBA ELITE NBA JAM!

That's too bad.  NBA Elite seemed like such a neat little bonus disc to be packaged together with a big release like NBA Jam. 
 
All kidding aside, props to EA for not shipping a half-finished game just to get it to market in time for the new season, and extra props for doing the right thing and pushing out the new roster as a free update.  They'll probably lose some sales in the short term, but Jam should still sell like gangbusters and if the new Elite is good, they'll make up for it in the long term with customer goodwill.

I wonder how much of a hit Elite sales will take now that Jam is going standalone?
 
Australia isn't exactly the basketball capital of the world, so my view here is naturally going to be a bit biased, but just about everyone I know that was going to buy Elite was essentially going to chuck it in a drawer somewhere just so they could get some of that sweet, sweet Jam.

Didn't 2K decide not to release a hockey game this year because EA are kicking their ass so bad? I guess this is the revenge?
 
I got the demo today, and I really like it. It's ridiculously difficult to get used to the differences in controls, but when you start to, you realise it makes more sense as they are now... although I'd prefer to use X to pass than a shoulder button, but hey.
 
I've seen the Jesus glitch, and the complaints about non-responsive controls, but I've experienced neither of these myself, so I'm kinda bummed out that the game isn't coming out in full form.

I'm still buying the Wii version.

I really like the control scheme and it is good idea to get away from the overly long animations of 2K and Live but, yeah, that game is not ready.  Wait until next year EA.

All I need is 2k11

I had the Game Room pose (which has totally been around since forever before Game Room, but still...) happen in my Mass Effect 2 game. Had me bursting with laughter to see Miranda posing like that.

I really doubt NBA JAM will be a downloadable title.
I still can't wait for it.
Matches via XboxLive is gonna be awesome.

Elite doesn't look very good.  That said, they keep removing reasons to buy NBA Jam for Wii, after it was touted as an exclusive title.  

 Damn! I didn't have any of those glitches when i played. But the controls are completely different from 2K and even Live and would take time for player to get used to. Also even if you take the controls out of account the gameplay still seemed a bit off.

Have your say here...

I think I'm going to go with the Wii version.

What I find most funny is the fact that Live has played like this for YEARS! Sure, the jesus thing was never an issue, but the game has played exactly as shitty as this every year for like 5 years strait now. It's kind of a joke how hard EA is trying but can't seem to get it right. Get the damn NHL guys into the Live studio or something. Even if they knew nothing about basketball, I'd bet they could make a batter game.

Wow, and I had a lot of fun with the Elite demo. I haven't bought a basketball game in years, but after trying both the 2k11 and Elite demo, I honestly thought the latter's gameplay was more intuitive and fun.  
 
I was seriously considering purchasing the game (pending positive reviews, of course), but at least we'll get N BA Jam as a standalone product and most people won't feel emotionally forced to buy Elite just for Jam.

Wow, really? Has this happened before? This is kind of a huge deal- this is one of EA's big properties & it's truly dependent on releasing at this time of year (especially since 2K11 is rearing its head around the corner). Good on EA for realizing that their game isn't up to snuff/not ready for release, but it's shocking IMO to hear this.  
 
Also, FINALLY NBA Jam isn't just bundled w/ NBA Elite. Even though I actually really enjoyed the NBA Elite demo more than I thought I would. Or maybe I was convincing myself it was worth buying the $60 game just for NBA Jam HD. Not sure.

Wow. Remember when EA used to be heartless and evil? This is pretty crazy.

" Wow, really? Has this happened before? This is kind of a huge deal- this is one of EA's big properties & it's truly dependent on releasing at this time of year (especially since 2K11 is rearing its head around the corner). Good on EA for realizing that their game isn't up to snuff/not ready for release, but it's shocking IMO to hear this.  
 
Also, FINALLY NBA Jam isn't just bundled w/ NBA Elite. Even though I actually really enjoyed the NBA Elite demo more than I thought I would. Or maybe I was convincing myself it was worth buying the $60 game just for NBA Jam HD. Not sure. "

Good.  Awesome.  It's rare that a developer/publisher will choose to bite the bullet for the sake of quality.  Especially for an annual sports game. 
 
2K is doing it with their NHL series and now EA with their NBA series.  I was already interested in looking at this game, after reading that they wanted to reinvent how their NBA game franchise played.  This move only serves to make me even more interested.  I am an NBA fan but have never really enjoyed playing modern basketball games. 
 
I hate paying $79 for a roster update.  I would rather spend the money on trying something completely new, even if it didn't work out.  It is so rare these days that publishers want to take any risks with their game franchises, this is so refreshing.

I wouldn't give EA too much props for this. It's a smart move but it's in their own interest. They've been hammering about a relaunch of their NBA series. If the demo is broken and the reception of it have been bad, it makes no sense for them to release NBA Elite. Sure, they would recoup some of the development costs but it would hurt them in the long run since they are trying to establish a strong brand name and milk future installments of the series. 
 
@VinceNotVance: All NBA players aren't NHL players and vice versa...

people are still looking forward to Elite 11?
 
sure i can understand ppl who were originally gonna buy it just for NBA jam though.

" What I find most funny is the fact that Live has played like this for YEARS! Sure, the jesus thing was never an issue, but the game has played exactly as shitty as this every year for like 5 years strait now. It's kind of a joke how hard EA is trying but can't seem to get it right. Get the damn NHL guys into the Live studio or something. Even if they knew nothing about basketball, I'd bet they could make a batter game. "

That video was so damn hilarious.

I haven't played an EA NBA game extensively since Live  2001, but i found the controls in the demo a good extension of the right stick controls in that game.  Granted, I've never been able to get used to the right stick in 2K NBA games.  Elite definitely needs work, but I think it could be the premiere NBA game this year. I still don't care much about sports games, but I was more into it than the 2K11 demo.

I hope it's DLC. I certainly won't be paying $60 for the game, that's for sure. Still, I think this is good news for everyone and I really like that they're giving free roster updates to NBA Live 2010 owners as compensation for this.

I applaud EA stance on this, they could of easily put out a crappy sports game. 

I am impressed. My respect for EA has gone up (not that it was too low anyways). I look forward to getting my hands on NBA Jam.

wow, EA surprised me on this one, they would usually say fuck it and release it broken. I also love that screeny of the player doing the gameroom airplane xD. And good job Kessler it was a nice read.

NBA JAM PS3 WOOO

I just want NBA Jam for the Wii to be ported to the other consoles as is and not the watered down version.

I thought the demo was alright. I really miss the Turbo button but other than that it wasn't terrible, I will even go as far as to say I will wait until it comes out and gets reviewed before I buy NBA 2K

" What I find most funny is the fact that Live has played like this for YEARS! Sure, the jesus thing was never an issue, but the game has played exactly as shitty as this every year for like 5 years strait now. It's kind of a joke how hard EA is trying but can't seem to get it right. Get the damn NHL guys into the Live studio or something. Even if they knew nothing about basketball, I'd bet they could make a batter game. "

" @JJWeatherman said:

" What I find most funny is the fact that Live has played like this for YEARS! Sure, the jesus thing was never an issue, but the game has played exactly as shitty as this every year for like 5 years strait now. It's kind of a joke how hard EA is trying but can't seem to get it right. Get the damn NHL guys into the Live studio or something. Even if they knew nothing about basketball, I'd bet they could make a batter game. "

Actually they DID get the NHL guys to help out on this one: 
 
Gamespot to news with title: NBA Elite 11: Q&A With David Littman
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/nbalive11/news.html?sid=6264429   Apologies for linking to Gamespot, but it's just to make a point; David Littman has been the creative director on the NHL franchise for some time. I believe they are trying really hard to reboot this franchise, but it seems they had tried to do too much in too little time, ending up with a buggy, unpolished game. "

So, I made a forum with this video in it and they take it down so they can use it in a news story? Thats pretty shitty if you ask me.

LMAO  at the video
'He standing their like Jesus WTF'

yo dawg he's just standing there like Jesus!

In Marv Albert Voice: Jordan for three.... YES!
 
And the Pacers wanna talk it over...

HD Jam. Yes. I was about to preorder the Wii version looks like i'll wait on that.

 The Jesus effect is slightly disconcerting.  I think EA made the right decision.

" "Something's wrong with my gawddamn buttons. Shit's crazy." "

I was watching some videos of nba elite hookshot exploit and what caught my eye was that the coaches were looking straight ahead...  at the very least they should add tracking to everyone on the bench to look at the player with the ball or where the action is happening.  nba2k11 has tracking on everyone on the bench. It's okay, first nba title by EA.... everyone messes up on the first try...

Sports games only have a one year shelf life (probably closer to 6 months). Who would be willing to buy an NBA game that's released in the middle of the season?

" I was watching some videos of nba elite hookshot exploit and what caught my eye was that the coaches were looking straight ahead...  at the very least they should add tracking to everyone on the bench to look at the player with the ball or where the action is happening.  nba2k11 has tracking on everyone on the bench. It's okay, first nba title by EA.... everyone messes up on the first try... "