Hey guys just want to throw it out there that a game where you control a dragon would be amazing, so let's get a second game going. Thanks.

Games where you control a dragon. Drakan 3 please.

I'm sad that that game sunk Factor 5. Those Rogue Squadron games were good.

What if a game like this features a teen boy with a 'tude who fights while listening to dubstep on his headphones. Just thinking out loud.

Skyrim did it already.

I've previously posted in some sequel thread that Lair could be a game that really comes into its own in a sequel. There were brief situations in that game that were excellent - swooping over a battlefield roasting people and then stomping down to the ground and wrecking shop felt pretty amazing.

Unfortunately, Factor 5 is dead and gone. Someones else will need to pick up the mantle; though with the way Lair turned out, publishers might be pretty shy about delving into that territory again.

@audiobusting said:

Get an in-game advertising deal with a major headphone maker, and we're in business ;-)

I like the 'world' of Lair. I like the 'look' of Lair. But, I think Lair didn't really work for long session of game play, it would have been interesting if 2/3 of the game were the player off their mount and doing other things.

And while we're bringing back disappointing PS3 games from fairly respected developers, let's get a sequel to Haze as well.

I never played Lair but I'd LOVE a true Panzer Dragoon collection, let alone a sequel. Crimson dragon was sort of ok (the microtransaction hooks were patched to not be okay) but doesn't hold a candle to Panzer Dragoon Orta. The original panzer dragoon was IN Orta, so even though the Saturn can be a pain to emulate we know these games can be made to play on other systems (plus Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes had good XBLA ports, and if the 360 could run them then the One certainly can.)

@bigsocrates: Yeah I didnt mind Crimson Dragon, but it was no Panzer Dragoon. I bought Orta a while ago for 360 and sent the game back because I thought the disc was scratched, as it turns out it was only backwards compatible to a point. The game looked really good and still holds up in my opinion.

Speaking of cool flight games / rail shooters are the Sin and Punishment games worth playing? I've heard good things but mainly from crazy Treasure fans.

Sounds like we want Drakengard 4. I rented Lair and remember thinking it was okay. It looked pretty though

Wasn't the crummy sixaxis control the real reason Lair failed? Cause if we do a sequel on Kinect i'm sure that would work.

Honestly i remember being pretty excited about it until i heard about the controls.

There was the Divinity strategy spin-off Dragon Commander a couple of years ago. It wasn't a fantastic game by any means, but it did let you fly around the battlefield as a dragon and supporting your troops. And there was some pretty good writing thrown in there for good measure too.

Up to a point? I played some early stages last year but does it eventually break if you're playing on 360? Orta's a bad ass game and I've been meaning to get back to it again.

Sin & Punishment 2 is a really cool game, I'd say it's worth a look. I played Dynamite Headdy a hell of a lot, so I don't know if that lumps me in with crazy Treasure fans, though.

@csl316: After doing a bit of research it turns out it may just be a PAL thing, and there's a work around if you put in 20 hours of gameplay.

@ripelivejam said:

It was a long time ago but according to my memory it was also stupid hard, and terrible at checkpointing. Which makes the bad controls even more frustrating. Its a perfect trifecta of video game poison.

@ripelivejam:

You could actually turn off that control and just play with the sticks like a normal game, though the way they marketed the game you would never have known that so I wouldn't be surprised if plenty of people avoided it due to the belief it would only control like that.
However that being said, it's not like the rest of it was good, it was a little bit fun doing aerial combat with dragons, but the graphics were muddy and even the stick controls were kind of bad and the story was nonsense and it was alllllll just not great, really mostly very not great.

@zolroyce:

Analog control was patched in after the fact. That explains why it wasn't in the marketing.

I think very few people have a lot of fondness for Lair the game, but Lair the idea was pretty cool, and I'd love Sony to just make another one ignoring the first. They wouldn't even have to call it Lair (why remind people of an old IP that wasn't liked?) It would be a very cool VR game potentially.

Plus anything that isn't a 3D shooter is exciting at this point. I'm looking at the known release schedule for the rest of the year and great googly moogly it's just shooters as far as the eye can see, with a few smaller games sprinkled in.

@bigsocrates: Ahh okay, my bad, I played it years after it was released so I assumed it had just been in there.

huh.... amazon reviews.... 37% actually like the game. Huh, time has treated Lair well.

Actually, my 2 year old niece LOVES Dragons.... but I don't want to show her brown, gritty dragons. I want show her like pink and purple dragons, or even Flammie from Mana.

Order of the Flame? I played the crap out of it on the PC back in the day. That game was pretty bad ass - it always sucked when you were forced to dismount the dragon for a while, but that made the flying sections awesome, as you're one shotting orcs that you had to dodge and weave through earlier in the level.