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    #1  Edited By sodiumCyclops

    Got this from Joystiq
     
      Former Infinity Ward heads Vince Zampella and Jason West are bringing a lawsuit against Activision for breach of contract and other claims, after Activision terminated their employment on March 1. The press release announcing the suit claims that Activision was scheduled to pay "substantial royalty payments," but fired them before the date of the payment.

    "Instead of thanking, lauding, or just plain paying Jason and Vince for giving Activision the most successful entertainment product ever offered to the public," attorney Robert Schwartz said, "last month Activision hired lawyers to conduct a pretextual 'investigation' into unstated and unsubstantiated charges of 'insubordination' and 'breach of fiduciary duty,' which then became the grounds for their termination on Monday, March 1st."

    In addition to compensation, the suit seeks to return the contractual rights Zampella and West previously had to the Modern Warfare brand.

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    #2  Edited By PufferFiz

    good i hope they win.

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    #3  Edited By sodiumCyclops
    @PufferFiz said:
    " good i hope they win. "
    agreed
     
    Activision is fucking EVIL
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    #4  Edited By MAN_FLANNEL

    This should make the next two years interesting.

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    #5  Edited By jakob187

    I just hope we all find out what the fuck the deal with all this is so we can leave it behind and move on! 
     
    However, I had this itching feeling for a little bit that Infinity Ward was probably talking to other places about buying up the studio.  For some reason, I even felt that itching involved Valve...especially with the amount of talk that they had with Valve about Steam-integration.  =  / 
     
    I don't know.  I just know that this is all pretty ridiculous.

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    #6  Edited By Fudgeblood

    I'm not fans of Infinity Ward but I'm praying to Space Jesus in hope that they win.

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    I hope they drain a shit load of money out of them, fuck Activision.

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    #8  Edited By raviolisumo
    @PufferFiz said:
    " good i hope they win. "
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    ITS ON NOW, SON!
     
    But yeah, I hope those dudes get some mad loot from Activision.

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    #10  Edited By jkz
    @PufferFiz said:
    " good i hope they win. "
    this, right here, has the ring of truth to it
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    #11  Edited By Jeffsekai

    They better win

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    #12  Edited By sodiumCyclops

    Question is, who would have the most backing? I would think Infinity Ward for sure.

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    #13  Edited By Skald

    After all, why would you want to pay someone when framing them is so much easier?

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    #14  Edited By Hot_Karl

    This is so friggin crazy, I honestly can't believe this is happening. This is a straight-up, vicious bloodbath. 
     
    I'm rooting for the little guys here definitely.

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    #15  Edited By apathylad

    This scandal would make an interesting film. I remember some dude made a comment saying that the Activision company is being run by NBC executives.

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    #16  Edited By JJOR64

    All I can say is good luck to them.

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    #17  Edited By sodiumCyclops
    @Apathylad said:
    " This scandal would make an interesting film. I remember some dude made a comment saying that the Activision company is being run by NBC executives. "
    I really wouldn't be suprised.
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    #18  Edited By animateria

    I do hope these two can take the Modern Warfare brand with them on their (inevitable) new development studio.
     
    We all know they deserve to keep it, not Activision.

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    #19  Edited By Imensae

    Only Soap and Price could pull this shit off

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    #20  Edited By carlthenimrod

    They have a good case to make. Seems petty to fire them over insubordination when they released one of the most successful video games in history.

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    #21  Edited By Coombs

    I want to know the details of the 
    " charges of 'insubordination' and 'breach of fiduciary duty,' "

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    Hope this gives Activision somewhat of a run for their money. One dick move deserves another, right?

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    #23  Edited By Bionicicide

    Hope this doesn't delay the first map-pack.

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    #24  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @Coombs said:

    " I want to know the details of the  " charges of 'insubordination' and 'breach of fiduciary duty,' " "

    From what I understand it has to do with "A webcam. A hot dog. Two pounds of Old jello. And a cabbage. 
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    #25  Edited By Coombs
    @Bionicicide said:
    " Hope this doesn't delay the first map-pack. "
    I hope they say " shit we don't have the money for a real map pack, Lets just port the CoD4 maps "
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    #26  Edited By vaiz

    As I said in the mirror thread: Shit just got realer. As a matter of fact, shit may just be the realest at this point. It was already real when bouncers showed up, it got realer when these guys were fired.

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    #27  Edited By Coombs
    @The_Laughing_Man said:
    " @Coombs said:

    " I want to know the details of the  " charges of 'insubordination' and 'breach of fiduciary duty,' " "

    From what I understand it has to do with "A webcam. A hot dog. Two pounds of Old jello. And a cabbage.  "
    Ok now I want to see the video.......
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    #28  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @Coombs said:
    " @The_Laughing_Man said:
    " @Coombs said:

    " I want to know the details of the  " charges of 'insubordination' and 'breach of fiduciary duty,' " "

    From what I understand it has to do with "A webcam. A hot dog. Two pounds of Old jello. And a cabbage.  "
    Ok now I want to see the video....... "
    In truth..if they claims are true..you must gotta do something real bad to get fired after having created one of the most popular Video games ever. 
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    #29  Edited By DanielJW

    The plot thickens. 

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    #31  Edited By ArbitraryWater
    @Coombs said:
    " @Bionicicide said:
    " Hope this doesn't delay the first map-pack. "
    I hope they say " shit we don't have the money for a real map pack, Lets just port the CoD4 maps " "
    That would probably be better than whatever IW's level designers are working on now... I think MW2 is a better game, but COD4 definitely had much better maps.
     
    Oh, and I hope they win.
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    #32  Edited By Pinworm45

    If this is really as simple as Activision creating grounds to fire these people so they wouldn't have to pay them the money they earned - that's really fucking pathetic. Disgusting. 
     
    But I doubt it's that simple.  
     
    Either way, activision can go to hell.

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    #33  Edited By thatfrood

    "We gave them their highest grossing game" isn't really a good legal argument. "They should be grateful" doesn't really mean anything as long as it isn't in their contract.

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    #34  Edited By Captain_Insano

    That's what happens when you spent half your budget on 'Joint Ops' and 'Blunt Trauma'

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    #35  Edited By Bionicicide
    @ArbitraryWater said:
    " @Coombs said:
    " @Bionicicide said:
    " Hope this doesn't delay the first map-pack. "
    I hope they say " shit we don't have the money for a real map pack, Lets just port the CoD4 maps " "
    That would probably be better than whatever IW's level designers are working on now... I think MW2 is a better game, but COD4 definitely had much better maps.  Oh, and I hope they win. "
    Too true.
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    #36  Edited By ch13696
    @Killjoi said:

    " Meanwhile, Bobby Kotick made $20 million within 3 days of MW2's launch. Ugh."  

     
    WTF? The dude became a millionaire without even working. I read his interview in Game Informer and he was talking about how he moved on up to CEO of Activision. The only reason why he became CEO because he had good ideas on who to buy and who to merge with.
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    #37  Edited By Ryax

    for me it depends on who was the one who decided to not have dedicated servers. who was it?

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    #39  Edited By vaiz
    @ch13696 said:
    " @Killjoi said:

    " Meanwhile, Bobby Kotick made $20 million within 3 days of MW2's launch. Ugh."  

     WTF? The dude became a millionaire without even working. I read his interview in Game Informer and he was talking about how he moved on up to CEO of Activision. The only reason why he became CEO because he had good ideas on who to buy and who to merge with. "
    I hate to be 'that guy' and play devils advocate for a moment, but that's business. People aren't going to put someone in a CEO position because they care about the product, they're going to put them in that position because they know what to do to maximise profits for 'The Company'.
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    #40  Edited By randiolo

    you know what this reminds me of .. Ghost and Roach  (   Vince Zampella - Jason west ) in mw2 being betrayed by commander Shepard ( Activision ) fits so well..

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    #41  Edited By thatfrood

    so wait, I thought it was cleared up that royalties were due in a month? How can the iw dudes say they haven't been paid them yet, then?

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    #42  Edited By TwoOneFive
    @PufferFiz said:
    " good i hope they win. "
    getting the rights back will be the toughest part though. 
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    #43  Edited By StabHatDude

    An open and public lawsuit against a firm which relies on the goodwill of the consumer? Wow - financial tactical nuke....

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    #44  Edited By ch13696
    @punkxblaze said:
    " @ch13696 said:
    " @Killjoi said:

    " Meanwhile, Bobby Kotick made $20 million within 3 days of MW2's launch. Ugh."  

     WTF? The dude became a millionaire without even working. I read his interview in Game Informer and he was talking about how he moved on up to CEO of Activision. The only reason why he became CEO because he had good ideas on who to buy and who to merge with. "
    I hate to be 'that guy' and play devils advocate for a moment, but that's business. People aren't going to put someone in a CEO position because they care about the product, they're going to put them in that position because they know what to do to maximise profits for 'The Company'. "
    The one thing I learned the most in business class is corrupt business'. And it's sad to say that America is the 3rd most corrupt country in the world. 1st is China and 2nd is I can't remember. So that gets me the weirdest feeling that there's more to his story. Probably he bought his way there,
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    #45  Edited By vaiz
    @ch13696 said:
    " @punkxblaze said:
    " @ch13696 said:
    " @Killjoi said:

    " Meanwhile, Bobby Kotick made $20 million within 3 days of MW2's launch. Ugh."  

     WTF? The dude became a millionaire without even working. I read his interview in Game Informer and he was talking about how he moved on up to CEO of Activision. The only reason why he became CEO because he had good ideas on who to buy and who to merge with. "
    I hate to be 'that guy' and play devils advocate for a moment, but that's business. People aren't going to put someone in a CEO position because they care about the product, they're going to put them in that position because they know what to do to maximise profits for 'The Company'. "
    The one thing I learned the most in business class is corrupt business'. And it's sad to say that America is the 3rd most corrupt country in the world. 1st is China and 2nd is I can't remember. So that gets me the weirdest feeling that there's more to his story. Probably he bought his way there, "
    I'll definitely agree with you there.
     
    Hey, maybe these guys knew some dirt on Kotick that he didn't like them knowing. Conspiracy theories GO. (Kidding.)
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    #46  Edited By spazmaster666
    @ch13696 said:

    The one thing I learned the most in business class is corrupt business'. And it's sad to say that America is the 3rd most corrupt country in the world. 1st is China and 2nd is I can't remember. So that gets me the weirdest feeling that there's more to his story. Probably he bought his way there, "

    They are only corrupt if they have conducted ethically/morally questionable business practices. If this is just a matter of them acting like a cutthroat business that values the bottom line, there's nothing corrupt about that. And while I do hope IW wins this suit, it seems like both sides are arguing about breaches of contract so it should be interesting in the coming days to see how this all turns out.
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    #47  Edited By natetodamax

    YES

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    #48  Edited By DragoonKain1687

    To think that we believed EA was the Devil. Man, Activision IS THE DEVIL. 
     
    They first screw the GH franchise, now they want to screw CoD!!!!
     
    I hope they win, and screw all over Activision's face-.

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    I hope they win, I'd really like to see what Activision does without their coveted Call of Duty games.

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    #50  Edited By General_D23
    @TwoOneFive said:
    " @PufferFiz said:
    " good i hope they win. "
    getting the rights back will be the toughest part though.  "


    Getting the rights will be next to impossible. Activision will pull every trick in the book to stop that from happening. Every. Single. One.

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