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Edited By x7eleven

In general, girls and games are pretty rare combination.This particular population is increasing,which is a good thing but girls tend to get much more attention than they deserve. Should I care with whom Im playing: male or female - i want to shoot their face equally. This thing grabbed my attention long time ago however I did not want to write about it since I have better things to do with my life,but now I dont.

Yesterday I was watching team fortress 2 "celebrity" showmatch. Idea is simple: get known people to play team fortress, known people from all sort of different sections: starting from Valve developers to famous youtubers. Guess what ? They had special place for gamer girls thus making "gamer girls" special sector of population, making it more priviliged. By making that move, organaiser showed disrespect to loyal fans, male gamers. In principle,girls can not be loyal. I felt inferior. No,I`m just kidding... but I think everyone should be equal. Apparently,they dont think the same way.

Long time ago,when life was not a huge torture,but a journey in hopes of conquering Lineage 2 world I have noticed that manhood showed special attention to people who pretented to be or for real were girls. Either way there is no way they could have known. Helping do quests,giving items etc. Really ? But why ? It is not like you gonna get her to sleep with you. Why bother? Are you that desperate or primitive ? Virtual attention of virtual girl ( who knows who is behind the screen) gonna make your self esteem grow ? Is it going to help to "break ice" in socialisation with opposite gender?

No matter who you are : Megan Fox,Michael Sheen, Lady Gaga in game you are just virtual unit to me. Middle finger in the air if you dont care who are you playing with.

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#1  Edited By x7eleven

In general, girls and games are pretty rare combination.This particular population is increasing,which is a good thing but girls tend to get much more attention than they deserve. Should I care with whom Im playing: male or female - i want to shoot their face equally. This thing grabbed my attention long time ago however I did not want to write about it since I have better things to do with my life,but now I dont.

Yesterday I was watching team fortress 2 "celebrity" showmatch. Idea is simple: get known people to play team fortress, known people from all sort of different sections: starting from Valve developers to famous youtubers. Guess what ? They had special place for gamer girls thus making "gamer girls" special sector of population, making it more priviliged. By making that move, organaiser showed disrespect to loyal fans, male gamers. In principle,girls can not be loyal. I felt inferior. No,I`m just kidding... but I think everyone should be equal. Apparently,they dont think the same way.

Long time ago,when life was not a huge torture,but a journey in hopes of conquering Lineage 2 world I have noticed that manhood showed special attention to people who pretented to be or for real were girls. Either way there is no way they could have known. Helping do quests,giving items etc. Really ? But why ? It is not like you gonna get her to sleep with you. Why bother? Are you that desperate or primitive ? Virtual attention of virtual girl ( who knows who is behind the screen) gonna make your self esteem grow ? Is it going to help to "break ice" in socialisation with opposite gender?

No matter who you are : Megan Fox,Michael Sheen, Lady Gaga in game you are just virtual unit to me. Middle finger in the air if you dont care who are you playing with.

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#2  Edited By Video_Game_King

Wait, seriously? They sectioned off a section just for the ladies? The hell? Did somebody tell the event organizers that that's only OK for bathrooms?

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#3  Edited By Funkydupe

Uhm. I care about who I'm playing with. That's why I have friendslists. I also have ignorelists for fucking retards.

If someone wants to be nice to a female character that's allowed. Are you jealous or something?

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#4  Edited By l4wd0g

Maybe instead of referring to them as 'gamer girls' we should just call them 'gamers'?

Although, with the amount of sexual harassment they receive, they might want their own place to go.

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#5  Edited By MethodMan008

Yeah, girl tournaments are a joke. They have done those at major fighting game tournaments before and everyone pretty much agrees that are a joke and basically insulting to females.

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#6  Edited By mwng

Next they'll want the vote or something crazy.

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#7  Edited By x7eleven

@Funkydupe: Thats a whole different story, but Im talking in general,public games.

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#8  Edited By PixelPrinny

I agree segregation is retarded. Gamers are gamers, regardless of gender, and no member of the community should be seen or treated as anything less, nor should they receive special treatment or attention. Unfortunately, we've still got a ways to go before that's the case, but we'll get there one day.

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#9  Edited By UncleClassy

There are two groups of people who play games. The first are normal people who treat the vagina sporting members of the gaming population like anyone else. The Second are socially awkward white knights who think they'll get some hot internet ass by being chivalrous.

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#11  Edited By Funkydupe

They put the Chobot in ME3 because she is a good actor.

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How silly.

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#13  Edited By BrockNRolla

I care a lot about the people I play with, which is exactly why I hate playing most games online. But I care for their behavior more than anything.

For example, all the people who keep saying things are "retarded" in this thread. They are idiots, or at the very least lazy assholes. I want nothing to do with them.

Also, people who can't be bothered to use even the most basic of grammatical instruments when they are posting on threads. I hate that they cared so little about what they were writing to bother with something so simple, yet still felt the need to spew it out into the public.

All that being said, both men and women can be worthless idiots. People can be whoever they want when they are online, but people should be treated based on the content of their character and their actions rather than any other label we might offer them.

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#14  Edited By Funkydupe

@BrockNRolla: I won't have anything to do with people who call others "idiots", "lazy", "assholes" and "worthless" in the same post.

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#15  Edited By Funkydupe

@BrockNRolla: Nobody is worthless. There is value and hope living inside everyone.

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#16  Edited By galiant
@BrockNRolla You've got a nice double standard going there.
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#17  Edited By x7eleven

I did now touch morale dimension, just gender. Of course,if we want to get more deeper into this stuff we should create some basic principles those would help to part more specific groupsbut lets leave how it is.

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#18  Edited By musubi

I quit reading after "Girls in gaming in general are pretty rare combination." Thats absolutely NOT true.

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#19  Edited By BrockNRolla

@Galiant said:

@BrockNRolla You've got a nice double standard going there.

Yes, because words that are generally insulting are the same as words which are discriminatory slurs against specific groups of people.

@Funkydupe said:

@BrockNRolla: Nobody is worthless. There is value and hope living inside everyone.

You're probably right. "Worthless" was harsh.

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#20  Edited By AdzPearson

Yeah, it's pretty sad that gender segregation stills exists. I keep on having to look at a calender to remind myself that I'm in the 21st century sometimes. I've personally never treated females differently from males. Gender shouldn't define anyone.

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#21  Edited By Sooty

Girls and video games, good one! Next you'll tell me they can do fractions or something.

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#22  Edited By x7eleven

@Demoskinos: Well, the very defination of "rare" might differ, but it is definitely rare based on my experience. Even if we accept your truth and say that it isnt, that would make matter even worse.

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#23  Edited By Kidavenger

@Funkydupe said:

They put the Chobot in ME3 because she is a good actor.

If I had been drinking anything when I read this, you would have owed me a new keyboard.

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#24  Edited By donutfever

Yes. Female gamers are treated so well. Especially on the internet. Where everyone is always so sensitive. 

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#25  Edited By WinterSnowblind

Ridiculous.

It reminds me of a lot of those Youtube/twitter/facebook "girl gamers" who are famous for the mere reason that they play games and they're female. I really don't understand why this segregation needs to exist or why the girls themselves would want to support it.

Yeah, I can see why they may want to avoid playing online with certain people, the way they're treated is downright appalling at times.. but I don't see how this is any better.

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#26  Edited By zeforgotten

Would rather play video games with some girl rather than RandomGuy McShitForBrains who keeps talking about how he likes to fuck chicks up the ass with his massive dick.  
So that's what I chose to do. then again they're girls I know in real life and so are most of the guys I play games with too.  
 
Randoms on the internet are literally worse than Hitler and Cancer combined

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#27  Edited By Ducksworth

I thought the whole reason gamer girls insist on posting provocative photos of themselves and starting every post with "as a girl who plays games I think" was because they want to feel special. Putting them all into a group just defeats the purpose of their existence.

Really though I hate this stupid little distinction based on genders but I guess when it does get to the level of mainstream celebrities being involved, things will degenerate to that level.

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#28  Edited By Dagbiker

Im not going to lie, and say that i have never treated some one differently just because of their gender. But I try my hardest not to. but there is a double standard, i wont go into it wholly, but woman want men to hold the door for them, there purse for them, and pay for diner. but at the same time they want to have equal rights, and thats bull shit.

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#29  Edited By Grimhild

Honestly, it seems to boil down to the age group of the people you're playing with more than anything. That's not to say that someone in their mid twenties or thirties can't be as much of a pathetic f*ckwad as most teenagers, but in my own personal experience, that seems to be the case. Not saying all teenagers are terrible people, and to be fair to ALL males, it's the ones that make the most noise that tend to give the entire community a bad reputation.

Yes, segregation is stupid, as is the "girl gamer" thing. But unfortunately there's always a hand full of people in a group that will make it their job, for whatever reason, to be the abrasive and dickish. As a result, people like myself just choose to either not use their mic on XBL, or not play it at all and stick to a group of friends via Skype while we game.

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#30  Edited By gamefreak9

I dno if treat them differently but I imagine most people treat girls differently because these are special girls, girls you have something in common with. I imagine that when I get married I will be complaining about politics with my wife but i'm still clinging to that slight chance we might be talking about games!

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#31  Edited By mikemcn

The word gamer is fucking stupid.

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#32  Edited By 71Ranchero

I would rather play against female gamers because they are less likely to call me a "fag". Instead of segregating the ladies we should instead be segregating the the asshats regardless of what gender they are.

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#33  Edited By x7eleven

@Dagbiker: That is very ironic, since feminists were fighting for equality and when they finally achieved their goals or comes close to getting it , women expect to be treated specially. Cynial, very cynical.

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#34  Edited By hatking

@l4wd0g said:

Maybe instead of referring to them as 'gamer girls' we should just call them 'gamers'?

Although, with the amount of sexual harassment they receive, they might want their own place to go.

Exactly. I don't think that was segregated to keep the girls from mixing in with the boys, but because most women probably don't want to subjugate themselves to the traditional pricks (i.e.: your definition of "loyal" fans) and the harassment they deal in.

Same reason we see other social groups. Be it a religious club or an ethnicity club. It's not about saving whitey, but about keeping the overly vocal idiots away from constructive conversation.

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#35  Edited By Grillbar

@UncleClassy said:

There are two groups of people who play games. The first are normal people who treat the vagina sporting members of the gaming population like anyone else. The Second are socially awkward white knights who think they'll get some hot internet ass by being chivalrous.

what about the third ones that constantly hit on them and tries to impress them, and asking about what they are wearing and so on

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#36  Edited By Jimbo
@UncleClassy said:
There are two groups of people who play games. The first are normal people who treat the vagina sporting members of the gaming population like anyone else. The Second are socially awkward white knights who think they'll get some hot internet ass by being chivalrous.
Ha! If only this were true.
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#37  Edited By x7eleven

@HatKing said:

@l4wd0g said:

Maybe instead of referring to them as 'gamer girls' we should just call them 'gamers'?

Although, with the amount of sexual harassment they receive, they might want their own place to go.

Exactly. I don't think that was segregated to keep the girls from mixing in with the boys, but because most women probably don't want to subjugate themselves to the traditional pricks (i.e.: your definition of "loyal" fans) and the harassment they deal in.

They are not going to be herrased in official event by somewhat known people.

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#38  Edited By zeforgotten
@Grillbar said:

@UncleClassy said:

There are two groups of people who play games. The first are normal people who treat the vagina sporting members of the gaming population like anyone else. The Second are socially awkward white knights who think they'll get some hot internet ass by being chivalrous.

what about the third ones that constantly hit on them and tries to impress them, and asking about what they are wearing and so on

The substitute teachers? 
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#39  Edited By Jimbo
@x7eleven said:

@HatKing said:

@l4wd0g said:

Maybe instead of referring to them as 'gamer girls' we should just call them 'gamers'?

Although, with the amount of sexual harassment they receive, they might want their own place to go.

Exactly. I don't think that was segregated to keep the girls from mixing in with the boys, but because most women probably don't want to subjugate themselves to the traditional pricks (i.e.: your definition of "loyal" fans) and the harassment they deal in.

They are not going to get herrased in official event by somewhat known people.

Ha! If only this were true.
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#40  Edited By Grimhild

Blanket statement. Not all of us are bra-burning feminazis that want special treatment. I just want to game without all this socio-quasi-political bullshit that everyone keeps drumming up.

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#41  Edited By Grillbar

dont understand why you need to devide the genders, women are not frail with a weak mind that wil burst in to tears as soon as someone says anything to them. im sure there intentions were good and all but just kick out people who were being sexist or discriminating and so on. some people are just assholes but still thats not the majority.

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#42  Edited By Funkydupe

... Then there are the ones just trying to be friendly towards everyone online but get stereotyped as flirters and "what-are-you-wearing"'ers because hey girls and boys can't be friends right?

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#43  Edited By x7eleven

@Grimhild: In the end not everyone matters. Sad,but true.

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#44  Edited By Dagbiker

@Grimhild said:

Blanket statement. Not all of us are bra-burning feminazis that want special treatment. I just want to game without all this socio-quasi-political bullshit that everyone keeps drumming up.

Honestly I was thinking about my sister and my Girlfriend getting on my case about not holding doors and Holding her purse and so fourth.

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#45  Edited By UncleClassy
@Grillbar said:

@UncleClassy said:

There are two groups of people who play games. The first are normal people who treat the vagina sporting members of the gaming population like anyone else. The Second are socially awkward white knights who think they'll get some hot internet ass by being chivalrous.

what about the third ones that constantly hit on them and tries to impress them, and asking about what they are wearing and so on

How could I forget!
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#46  Edited By Scooper

Where's Carrie Gouskos when you need her?

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#47  Edited By FluxWaveZ

If I ever meet a gamer girl, I'll ask her to marry me.

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#48  Edited By Dagbiker

Didnt that LAN party have a girls section too, or was that just no girls allowed.

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#49  Edited By Grimhild

@Grimhild: In the end not everyone matters. Sad,but true.

@x7eleven: Not sure what that's implying. I was alluding to my previous comment about how the loudest ones in the group are what tend to taint the image of a community;

I.E. The chauvinists within the gaming community do not represent how I see all male gamers.

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#50  Edited By Animasta

@Dagbiker said:

@Grimhild said:

Blanket statement. Not all of us are bra-burning feminazis that want special treatment. I just want to game without all this socio-quasi-political bullshit that everyone keeps drumming up.

Honestly I was thinking about my sister and my Girlfriend getting on my case about not holding doors and Holding her purse and so fourth.

you should hold doors open for everyone

you monster