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So lately, there have been a lot of videos tagged with [PREMIUM]. I can understand why Giant Bomb feels the need to diversify premium only content, and that's all well and good, but something about this seems super off-putting to me. I love that these videos exist and I would love to get a membership so that I could participate, but I feel that the way these videos are presented could be more elegant. In my opinion, adding "[PREMIUM]" to the title gives off this air of superiority, for a lack of a better word. When I see that I hear "Haha, there's a party and you're no invited, so suck it", which kind of bums me out. Dave said early on that the goal of the membership program was not to put everything behind a pay-wall, but I feel like this kind of flies in the face of that.

Would it be possible to have multiple news feeds, one without these special videos and one with? Perhaps you could add a special "special insider video access" clause to the membership page?

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#2  Edited By cav86

if you would love to get a membership just get a membership, problem solved

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#3  Edited By Karl_Boss

Its like its a porn site, "become a member to get access to PREMIUM hd videos".

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#4  Edited By zidd

It was only there because people were mad that they saw the video and it wasn't properly marked as subscriber only and they got stopped from watching it.

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#5  Edited By Animasta

@Zidd said:

It was only there because people were mad that they saw the video and it wasn't properly marked as subscriber only and they got stopped from watching it.

yeah, dave said he would be looking into other ways.

also, you can REALLY read a lot into like, one single word

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#6  Edited By zeforgotten

Does few videos marked "[PREMIUM]" really put everything behind a pay-wall?

There's been other threads asking for like a tiny Ribbon on the thumbnails of the Premium videos though and that to me seems like a good idea.. A tiny little thing that would easily be overlooked and then a non-subscriber clicks on it and goes "FOR FUCKS SAKE! How was I supposed to know at first glance that this wasn't for non-subscribers?" and then millions of threads complaining about that would start too.

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#7  Edited By DrPockets000

Quiet down and pay your tribute!

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#8  Edited By FluxWaveZ

Man, people will complain about anything. The [PREMIUM] is there because, just like Zidd said, it was frustrating for non-subscribers to click on videos they didn't know were subscriber-only in the past. Really, you're just annoyed because you're not a subscriber.

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#9  Edited By Dallas_Raines

Yeah, many, many people complained that the Daggerfall video wasn't specially marked as a subscriber feature.

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#10  Edited By bombingrun217

Agreed, its only to tell nonmembers what is sub only content.

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#11  Edited By napalm

I always thought there should be a gold/silver border around the videos that were subscriber-only. It's an easy, clean, eloquent way to solve that problem. I figured it would have been in the last update, but I suppose not.

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#12  Edited By MooseyMcMan

Stop your whining. Either pay them, or get on with your life. You must have something better to do than watch Dave and Vinny play Daggerfall.

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#13  Edited By Nitrocore

To be honest I agree. I think they should put those videos in a premium section or something, or just exchange the word premium for an icon. Being shown something that you can't access and others can, creates an unwanted amount of segregation.

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I'm raising a concern because it affects me, so by Zipf's law, there must be someone who is very much affected by it.

I would love to get a membership, but I don't have a credit card, a source of income, nor the desperation to beg for money, so don't try and shame me that way.

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#15  Edited By louiedog

We get threads of people complaining that they didn't know content was premium. We get threads of people complaining that there's a tag. Someone write me a greasemonkey script that blocks whiners.

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#16  Edited By jmfinamore

@Napalm said:

I always thought there should be a gold/silver border around the videos that were subscriber-only. It's an easy, clean, eloquent way to solve that problem. I figured it would have been in the last update, but I suppose not.

That seems like a good solution. I have no problem with using the "premium" label, but it just looks kind of unclean right now.

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#17  Edited By Vinny_Says

Someone will complain about "gold trim" on videos or "insider access" or weird icons....

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#18  Edited By DystopiaX

@chrismafuchris: They only put that up there cause people were bitching that they saw a premium vid (unmarked), would click it, and couldn't play it. Then they put that here and you're bitching because of a title? They call them premium memberships so it's premium content, and they have also said they're going to start doing that stuff on the daily. Why the hell are you bitching about a word? Does it really change what it is that much? No air of superiority there, "Premium" is just a descriptor of what it is- content for premium members.

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#19  Edited By OllyOxenFree

Get a job, you hippy!

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#20  Edited By Dallas_Raines

Please, let's not fight GB community. Can't we all just get along?

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@louiedog: Was I whining? I saw something that could be handled better, and I voiced my concern, because I want Giant Bomb to be the best it can be.

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#22  Edited By Akyho

You wanna know somthing. It was [SUBCRIBER] befor....people complained.......so now its [PREMIUM] people complained...so now it will become [Chicken] and then people will complain that stops them from watching the videos then it will becomes [HIPOTTYIHOPMITUS] then people will be insulted because that nows reminds them they arnt subcribers and cant watch the video.

You see a pattern? Its not the word its, what it signs posts thats the problem. So everyone sign up or not and just deal with it. I subbed cos i couldnt deal with not getting to see everything. I dont havea job and live with family but £4/$5 a month I can fork out to make between jobs a little more berable. If you wont pay that then your choice. if you cant pay that then sorry, if payment methods screw you up as some people have been sorry again.

However it still leaves thing the same.

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#23  Edited By BeachThunder

Honestly, I agree with you; personally I think that [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] of [PREMIUM] would [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] have [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM]. I really wish that [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] because it [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM]. Furthermore, [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM]!

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#24  Edited By kristov_romanov

@louiedog said:

We get threads of people complaining that they didn't know content was premium. We get threads of people complaining that there's a tag. Someone write me a greasemonkey script that blocks whiners.

Oh, we can make that script another premium feature.

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#25  Edited By Pinworm45

@FluxWaveZ said:

Man, people will complain about anything. The [PREMIUM] is there because, just like Zidd said, it was frustrating for non-subscribers to click on videos they didn't know were subscriber-only in the past.

Did you at any point in writing your reply think that you might be missing the point?

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#26  Edited By Simplexity

Quality of trolls have really gone down recently on this forum.

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#27  Edited By NakAttack

I agree, they should put [Hamburger] instead.

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#28  Edited By Nadafinga

Jeff said that the PREMIUM tag is a placehoder until they figure out how to tag them better in the future. Its coming.

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#29  Edited By amomjc

@BeachThunder said:

Honestly, I agree with you; personally I think that [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] of [PREMIUM] would [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] have [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM]. I really wish that [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] because it [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM]. Furthermore, [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM] [PREMIUM]!

I lol'd.

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#30  Edited By Akyho

@Nadafinga said:

Jeff said that the PREMIUM tag is a placehoder until they figure out how to tag them better in the future. Its coming.

People will still not be happy. I am all for cushioning the pain for them, except people will always be unhappy. It all just mean they cant watch and thats the main problem they have.

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#31  Edited By MordeaniisChaos

@chrismafuchris: They are adding neat things that people have been asking for, and keeping all the great core experience for everyone. Stop fucking bitching. A) They have to tell you which content is which, and B) it's a temp solution until they figure out a more attractive way to do it. If it's something you want to see, then subscribe., if not, too bad. They will put things behind a pay wall, just not the core experience. Kinda tired of this crap. They just give you content, you pay nothing for the great content they give you. Take it and be gracious.

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#32  Edited By scarace360

Well time to pay my tribute to the crime boss.

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#33  Edited By kingzetta

Get the hell over it for Christ sake

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#34  Edited By napalm

@chrismafuchris said:

I'm raising a concern because it affects me, so by Zipf's law, there must be someone who is very much affected by it.

It can be irritating when I see what I'm not getting, but it doesn't affect me that much. At least, not enough to make a topic about it.

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#35  Edited By Matfei90

@chrismafuchris said:

In my opinion, adding "[PREMIUM]" to the title gives off this air of superiority, for a lack of a better word.

I'm just going to say, I'm pretty sure words like MEMBER or SUBSCRIBER would trigger the same reaction aswell. Also these features aren't anything old - it's not like they're paywalling mailbags now.

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#36  Edited By zeforgotten

Actually, now that I think about it. With all the threads complaining and whining about this (not that this is whining at all, the others that are) they should just go all out and use this picture instead of the "[PREMIUM}" tag:

No Caption Provided

That would at least give them a reason to whine about it every fucking day

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#37  Edited By vager

I'm pretty sure I heard that the [PREMIUM] text is only temporary until they make something better to signify it. Completely hiding it from non-subscriber is dumb. No one will want something that they don't know it exists.

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#38  Edited By FluxWaveZ

@Pinworm45 said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

Man, people will complain about anything. The [PREMIUM] is there because, just like Zidd said, it was frustrating for non-subscribers to click on videos they didn't know were subscriber-only in the past.

Did you at any point in writing your reply think that you might be missing the point?

What's the point? That the label [PREMIUM] gives off too much of an air of superiority or that its not subtle enough?

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#39  Edited By SomeJerk

Hiding premium archived content makes free users go "hurr $4 a month is a waste, no premium content" while the rest of us waddle in hours of delicious unique content every day. Ain't gonna happen.

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@kingzetta said:

Get the hell over it for Christ sake

@MordeaniisChaos said:

@chrismafuchris: Stop fucking bitching.

Did you guys not read my post? I'm not detrimentally stunned into tears or anything, I just think it's an uncharacteristic move of GB to flaunt these videos and I think it could be handled better. That's all I'm saying.

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#41  Edited By Animasta

@Pinworm45 said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

Man, people will complain about anything. The [PREMIUM] is there because, just like Zidd said, it was frustrating for non-subscribers to click on videos they didn't know were subscriber-only in the past.

Did you at any point in writing your reply think that you might be missing the point?

like, even if they do something subtle like putting a gold border around it, people are still going to KNOW.

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#42  Edited By Commisar123

@chrismafuchris: well i mean it is premium...and of course they give some more weight to people who give them money

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#43  Edited By Pinworm45

@Laketown said:

@Pinworm45 said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

Man, people will complain about anything. The [PREMIUM] is there because, just like Zidd said, it was frustrating for non-subscribers to click on videos they didn't know were subscriber-only in the past.

Did you at any point in writing your reply think that you might be missing the point?

like, even if they do something subtle like putting a gold border around it, people are still going to KNOW.

Yep, people seeing that the content exists and not having access is the issue, not really the method in which it's displayed. But then again the OP was only complaining about the way it was displayed so my comment was kind of wrong

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#44  Edited By Animasta

oh well! I kind of like the idea of just putting a giant picture of Luchadeer on the picture if it's a subscriber video.

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#45  Edited By SomeJerk

Yeah how dare GB treat the people who actually pay them the slightest better than the freeloaders..

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#46  Edited By kingzetta
@chrismafuchris said:

@kingzetta said:

Get the hell over it for Christ sake

@MordeaniisChaos said:

@chrismafuchris: Stop fucking bitching.

Did you guys not read my post? I'm not detrimentally stunned into tears or anything, I just think it's an uncharacteristic move of GB to flaunt these videos and I think it could be handled better. That's all I'm saying.

maybe you weren't bitching maybe you were, but we can all sense the subtext. your butthurt.
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#47  Edited By SSully

As people have already said, that is just a place holder for a better way of marking premium content in the future. This thread is redundant.

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#48  Edited By louiedog
@chrismafuchris said:

@kingzetta said:

Get the hell over it for Christ sake

@MordeaniisChaos said:

@chrismafuchris: Stop fucking bitching.

Did you guys not read my post? I'm not detrimentally stunned into tears or anything, I just think it's an uncharacteristic move of GB to flaunt these videos and I think it could be handled better. That's all I'm saying.

You have an odd definition of flaunt. You also said that "[PREMIUM]" gives off an air of superiority. The tag isn't doing anything. All of that is in your head.
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@SomeJerk: Did I ever once say that I'm mad that I can't watch the videos? No, I find it terrific that there's stuff that I can't watch! The more content the better, as far as I'm concerned.

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@Unknown_Pleasures said:

Its like its a porn site, "become a member to get access to PREMIUM hd videos".

This isn't a porn site?! AH FUCK