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#1  Edited By donaldkhogan

I'm making this as an attempt to get something in front of the Bomb crew that they can find useful. 

Please TRY to keep your answers simple.  I don't see a way to make a Poll so this will have to do.

Excessive swearing on the Bombcast:

YES   or   NO

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#2  Edited By Systech

Rich made a good point about there being too much swearing on the last episode. I enjoyed every episode of the Bombcast up until the last one. It was still great cause it had Rich, Alex, and Rorie, though.

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#3  Edited By donaldkhogan

totally. 

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#4  Edited By Systech
DualReaver said:
"Fuck."
nice!
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#5  Edited By pirate_republic

I don't think it's necesarry, no. Maybe sometimes for effect, but not being total dicks about it.

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#6  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

No. I think we're all mature enough to be able to handle a few fuck's here and there. As long as they are not fucking doing fucking it every fucking word, then its fucking fine.

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#7  Edited By Soap

FUCK no, if anything we need more F bombs dropped on the podcast... this aint no kids site! lol

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#8  Edited By DualReaver

Seriously they were pretty drunk what do you expect?

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#9  Edited By HandsomeDead

No. I don't see why it is deemed so offensive and really, surely censoring them is going against what the original idea of GinatBomb is.

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#10  Edited By TheGTAvaccine

How about this: who cares?

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#11  Edited By donaldkhogan

I hear you believe me, when I'm wasted it's def R rated.  I guess I'm just wondering if it'll hurt the Bomb in the long run.  Fact is I want to see this site succeed.  I want it around for a long long time.  Imagine parents seeing or hearing their kids listening to the cast and being all "whelp time to block that site".  Maybe not an issue, but when you look at the bigger sites, it ain't there.  And I'm not saying NEVER swear, just...well reign it in a little.  Then again maybe this is one of those things where these guys are just taking a stand and really getting behind swearing in general, in which case that's cool.  I just think for the site to really blow up....blah blah blah I'm repeating myself.

My vote is Less swearing.  Not none!  Not, forget the whole freedom of speech thing.  Just LESS.  Like, same with that vid of the dudes working on Legendary, totally ruined the vid for me that the one guys is half-hiding his bottle of whatever from the camera.  It's just not PRO. 

Long live the Bomb!

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#12  Edited By danielkempster

I think the excessive swearing on the latest podcast is due to the context. When you take away all the professional stuff, it's just a bunch of friends socialising and knocking back some drinks. Language tends to fly around a bit on occasions like that. I don't think it's going to be a regular concern.

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#13  Edited By TheGTAvaccine

I dont think kids listen to podcasts anyways. Too boring for children I would suppose.

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#14  Edited By donaldkhogan
dankempster said:
"I think the excessive swearing on the latest podcast is due to the context. When you take away all the professional stuff, it's just a bunch of friends socialising and knocking back some drinks. Language tends to fly around a bit on occasions like that. I don't think it's going to be a regular concern."
That's a good point.
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#15  Edited By donaldkhogan
TheGTAvaccine said:
"I dont think kids listen to podcasts anyways. Too boring for children I would suppose."
Also a good point.
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#16  Edited By AaronBelfast

Simple: No, its part of the humor. F bombs are a form of personality and personality is good.

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#17  Edited By Soap
donaldkhogan said:
"I hear you believe me, when I'm wasted it's def R rated.  I guess I'm just wondering if it'll hurt the Bomb in the long run.  Fact is I want to see this site succeed.  I want it around for a long long time.  Imagine parents seeing or hearing their kids listening to the cast and being all "whelp time to block that site".  Maybe not an issue, but when you look at the bigger sites, it ain't there."
Right, and thats why other sites have forums filled with bratty little fanboy kids who just generally get in the way, if this place ends up with a majority mature userbase, the better it will be.
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#18  Edited By fr0br0

I always see it as the more swearing there is, the more drunk they are.

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#19  Edited By shaunwoo

Everything in excess is never a good thing...except sex.  And beer.  And well you get the point.  I don't mind the swearing too much.

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#20  Edited By donaldkhogan
Soap said:
"donaldkhogan said:
"I hear you believe me, when I'm wasted it's def R rated.  I guess I'm just wondering if it'll hurt the Bomb in the long run.  Fact is I want to see this site succeed.  I want it around for a long long time.  Imagine parents seeing or hearing their kids listening to the cast and being all "whelp time to block that site".  Maybe not an issue, but when you look at the bigger sites, it ain't there."
Right, and thats why other sites have forums filled with bratty little fanboy kids who just generally get in the way, if this place ends up with a majority mature userbase, the better it will be."
Can't disagree with that I suppose, but can you ever really guard against that when talking about games?
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#21  Edited By donaldkhogan

Sorry guys I guess this is more of a debate thread now.  (shoulda seen that coming)  I love a good debate though. 

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#22  Edited By Soap
donaldkhogan said:
"Soap said:
"donaldkhogan said:
"I hear you believe me, when I'm wasted it's def R rated.  I guess I'm just wondering if it'll hurt the Bomb in the long run.  Fact is I want to see this site succeed.  I want it around for a long long time.  Imagine parents seeing or hearing their kids listening to the cast and being all "whelp time to block that site".  Maybe not an issue, but when you look at the bigger sites, it ain't there."
Right, and thats why other sites have forums filled with bratty little fanboy kids who just generally get in the way, if this place ends up with a majority mature userbase, the better it will be."
Can't disagree with that I suppose, but can you ever really guard against that when talking about games?"
I dunno, the average age of a gamer seems to be getting higher all the time, soon hopefully the smelly little brats will become the minority ;)
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#23  Edited By Player1

Its funny, on Gamespot I always got my messages censored, and I always felt the need to cuss. But I couldn't

But now on Giantbomb, I can cuss. And I don't seem to feel any need to do so. 
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#24  Edited By donaldkhogan

I guess my thing is that I'd like to see more focused work. 

I mean these guys are doing a job.  It's their Job.  I come here to hear about games from awesome dudes who I can identify with.  And I feel that with some of the more recent video/podcast posts, I'm getting a lesser quality of workmanship. 

I can appreciate buddies and old colleagues throwing a few back and having fun.  I guess I just don't want to listen to their podcast on their gamesite about it.  I mean Rich Gallup was on there and how much did we hear from him?  Basically he was saying, "guys...can we focus here?"  I mean the last 2 mins of the cast were the only things that I found useful at all.  Aside from the fact that I did indeed get pumped to go to PAX next year.  Speaking of which I gotta go get my uhaul truck so I can move to seattle tonight!  Talk to you fools lata!

D. 

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#25  Edited By RetroIce4

FUCK YEAH!

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#26  Edited By SpecTackle

I don't really think they're trying to make it exclusively a family show. There was alot of it on the pax cast but at the same time that's what happens when most people are around a group of friends.

No.

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#27  Edited By JamesM

Pedantry: if you're OK with the level of swearing, it isn't excessive. Excessive means too much.

Anyway, I think it's more about the delivery than the quantity. If it seems like people are swearing just to swear, it's pretty immature and generally makes it sound less natural, dampening the effect somewhat anyway. If it's delivered naturally and with conviction, however, I have no problem with it. It can add punchy emphasis to things. Swearing due to drunkenness can fall into either category, but I'd say it tends to lean toward the former. I found the PAX Bombcast to be a bit much. It didn't ruin it, but it did make things a little awkward. If nothing else, the fact that Rich didn't seem comfortable with it (or at least didn't approve) had an effect. You don't want to be alienating members of the group or spoiling the communal vibe.

Of course, I'm overblowing the actual effect. It's for illustrative purposes!

Swearing is definitely hilarious and cool, though, and will make people like and respect you. It will also give you bigger muscles and a higher-paying job.

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#28  Edited By Relys

FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK YES! I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF FUCKING PEOPLE SAYING THE WORD FUCK..

FUCK!

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#29  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

No. But at the moment I don't feel their swearing reaches a level that could be called excessive.

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#30  Edited By sionweeks

Kids are eventually going to learn curse words anyway, so let the guys "Curse up a storm" as Ryan would put it.

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#31  Edited By DarthMaul

It's not necessary, but I don't give a shit.

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#32  Edited By Patchinko
  


But yeah, too much swearing makes it seem unprofessional to the point that it could be a detriment to their credibility in the future. Unless they want to be the Jay of videogame websites, which is one way to go!
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#33  Edited By ThomasP
MattyFTM said:
"No. I think we're all mature enough to be able to handle a few fuck's here and there. As long as they are not fucking doing fucking it every fucking word, then its fucking fine."
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#34  Edited By donaldkhogan

The other threads addressed this topic as well.  I think most of you are right actually, after reading the other responses, I guess it is just a podcast, not a review.  You'd never catch any of these guys doing a review and saying F this or F that or even dissin the folks who made a game.   Even if my tastes are just a little diff, doesn't mean GB is unprofessional.  They just aren't MY favorite version on the podcast. 

Thanks for the replies tho dudes. 

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#35  Edited By tovan
Patchinko said:
But yeah, too much swearing makes it seem unprofessional to the point that it could be a detriment to their credibility in the future. Unless they want to be the Jay of videogame websites, which is one way to go!"  
Who seriously comes to this site seeking professionalism? Most people come here because they love the hell out of the crew.
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#36  Edited By zityz

One thing though, they're passionate about what they do, and they don't feel fake, they say whats on their minds, and so what they swear, everyone does at one point. So what? not EVERYTHING has to cater to kids.

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#37  Edited By Systech

Well the PAX episode is the only one that I thought was over the top swearing, so I shouldn't complain very much because Ryan is good at swearing.

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#38  Edited By Dalai

Like everything in life, swearing is best in moderation... if you've got the mouth of a sailor, you kind of look like a shithead.

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#39  Edited By Jesus_Juice

It doesn't sound natural when Ryan does it; it's like when an 8 year-old tries to sound cool by saying fuck all the time. That said, I'm not a mormon, and can therefore tolerate lewd language. I just think Ryan should do it less.

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#40  Edited By Kohe321

No let them do excatly the thing they are doing now. Its awesome. Most of them had been drinking on the PAX podcast so there isn't that much swearing usually. I laughed my ass off to that podcast btw, one of the best ever. Matt Rorie is a PIMP!

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#41  Edited By Stevokenevo

"What the Fuck do you think youre doing?!"  I couldn't think of a better way for ryan to start the PAXcast. 
Swearing can be hilarious or embarrasingly ridiculous.  I think its a fine line between the two, but the Giantbomb crew always seem to be in the appropriately hilarious side.

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#42  Edited By Shasam

I really don't think it matters. Swearing is just a part of everyone's (well, most peoples) vocabulary, and should be used just like you would use other words. It's not as if the guys are swearing "because it's cool" or whatever, they're not 9-year-olds who have just learnt all the naughty words. At the end of the day, if it's a site targeted at a mature audience, which this is, then who cares.

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#43  Edited By GagJ

Its again the ide aof the bomb, we come here because as Jeff said on the G4 interview "we all love games" hence the casual approach is justified, and I know I swear like a motherfucker when I'm with friends. Are we allowed the mf word by the way?

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#44  Edited By KindGalaxy

What is excessive? At work there are fucks, shits and the dreaded c-word spread across like butter, I really don't care if I'm listening to something on my iPod and they drop a few swears. Swearing is so common in my personal, social and work circles that I couldn't care less if a podcast acts natural. I'd rather they act natural than think about their wording; that's how we get Kane & Lynch exclusive reviews.

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#45  Edited By GiantGUS
TheGTAvaccine said:
"How about this: who cares?"
YES! Exactly, it's just another word people, lets not star threads about every single one we don't like.

donaldkhogan said:
"I guess my thing is that I'd like to see more focused work. 

I mean these guys are doing a job.  It's their Job.  I come here to hear about games from awesome dudes who I can identify with.  And I feel that with some of the more recent video/podcast posts, I'm getting a lesser quality of workmanship. 

I can appreciate buddies and old colleagues throwing a few back and having fun.  I guess I just don't want to listen to their podcast on their gamesite about it.  I mean Rich Gallup was on there and how much did we hear from him?  Basically he was saying, "guys...can we focus here?"  I mean the last 2 mins of the cast were the only things that I found useful at all.  Aside from the fact that I did indeed get pumped to go to PAX next year.  Speaking of which I gotta go get my uhaul truck so I can move to seattle tonight!  Talk to you fools lata!

D. "

FOCUSED?!?!?! He spent the entire time in fucking chat with the 38 studios guys, he was totally distracted the whole time.
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#46  Edited By jlaudio7

Yes, and Fuck the fucking fuckers if they dont like it...ok that was excessive.

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#47  Edited By vilhelmnielsen

As long as they keep it it a bit down, I think it's hilarious. But really, I don't care.

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#48  Edited By metal_mills

I swear a lot myself so I really don't care. In fact I like them swearing because they act more them self rather than being all PG13 like they use to be in the Hotspot.

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#49  Edited By DanCarmichael

There was a lot of it this episode but meh, don't care.

I could see it being a bit much if it was like that for every episode but it's not.

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#50  Edited By whyzenheimer

Is there anything on this site that someone won't whine about?  Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass.  I enjoy listening to an unfettered Bombcast, and those who don't can sit on it and spin themselves over to the Giant Puritancast, because that might be a little more their speed.