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They fixed it now, but we were having a laugh on the GT PC forums.
Ubisoft Entertainment
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Ubisoft Entertainment (pronounced yoo-bee-soft) is a French videogame developer and publisher, with its headquarters in Montreuil-Sous-Bois, France.
Ubisoft's site hacked by pirates
" lol brutal. and what wait? what war on scientology i missed that? "this
I want to see pics
*sigh* hackers..
i wish these people could put this much energy towards something useful..i dont mind cracking the oppressive drm...but site hacking is so 95.
all these cracker groups like Razor 1911 and skidrow are in Europe, I think Eastern Europe. The authorities had a lot of police raids on these groups in the early 2000's but its mostly quit now. These groups are like impossible to track just like axxo. They aren't stupid. They are actually trained and don't just recruit people out of the blue." Lol, how don't those people get arrested? "
This, only because if they don't win, other companies will put shitty and ridiculous DRM on their games similar to Ubisoft's. On the contrary, it could also make Ubisoft implement worse DRM or eventually quit publishing on the PC." Made my day. I hope the pirates do win this one. "
" @Korone said:i disagreeThis, only because if they don't win, other companies will put shitty and ridiculous DRM on their games similar to Ubisoft's. On the contrary, it could also make Ubisoft implement worse DRM or eventually quit publishing on the PC. "" Made my day. I hope the pirates do win this one. "
the cracking of drm causes the companies to freak out about pirating, thus putting DRM on their products. it could go either way.
"Made my day. I hope the pirates do win this one. "
I feel you on not wanting too much DRM and stuff. As somebody who just lost their CD-key for Starcraft but still has all the discs, I feel like DRM is out to get me.
But if pirates win every battle like this, there won't be any games for anybody to play. They will just find a new reason to steal the next game. I want this DRM to go away, but you don't want the pirates to win.
" @xobballox said:Not really. Look at Steam. Games don't have DRM, unless you count Steam as one, and they sell fine. I mean how many PC developers close down? All the piracy stuff is just PR bullshit. Crytek is crying about piracy, but they made enough profit to open a new studio in UK, buy Free Radical and re-hire all its employees, make the most advanced game engine, and a sequel" @Korone said:i disagree the cracking of drm causes the companies to freak out about pirating, thus putting DRM on their products. it could go either way. "This, only because if they don't win, other companies will put shitty and ridiculous DRM on their games similar to Ubisoft's. On the contrary, it could also make Ubisoft implement worse DRM or eventually quit publishing on the PC. "" Made my day. I hope the pirates do win this one. "
Steam is fancy DRM. It prevents you from playing the game on a computer that it isnt validated to play on.
And "all the piracy stuff is pr bullshit" is what pirates tell themselves when they want to goto sleep at night. I mean its even a fucking problem on handheld consoles, why no one makes games for the PSP, why nintendo released the DSI, the answer to both is piracy.
Not really. Look at Steam. Games don't have DRM, unless you count Steam as one, and they sell fine. I mean how many PC developers close down? All the piracy stuff is just PR bullshit. Crytek is crying about piracy, but they made enough profit to open a new studio in UK, buy Free Radical and re-hire all its employees, make the most advanced game engine, and a sequel "What about World of Goo? World of Goo was sold on Steam or sold separately sans DRM and has a piracy rate close to 90%.
" @sexy_nipples: Steam is fancy DRM. It prevents you from playing the game on a computer that it isnt validated to play on. And "all the piracy stuff is pr bullshit" is what pirates tell themselves when they want to goto sleep at night. I mean its even a fucking problem on handheld consoles, why no one makes games for the PSP, why nintendo released the DSI, the answer to both is piracy. "It is an easier DRM system. I mean, I've been able to share games with my friend on it. Just sign on his account, and play it. If he wants to sign on, just play offline. It is an easier DRM system, that mostly enjoy mainly because of the sales and how easy it is. I mean, you need a DRM system no matter what. On PC, I can buy a game and play it with 5 other people who are using my copy at the same time. On consoles you can share it but only one person can play it. Steam is a perfect balance between what the devs want and what the consumers want. And I'm talking about PC games. handhelds are a different story.
Like what PC devs have closed down because of being pirated? I can name you so many console developers or publisher who lose profit, go bankrupt etc.. because people just buy their game used, borrow of their friend or rent the game. Used games, and renting are far more of a problem for devs. Little King's Story devs, they're bankrupt.
Free Radical, bankrupt. Eidos, bankrupt. Midway, bankrupt etc.. The only PC devs that went bankrupt are the MMO devs. You can't pirate MMO games, but they went bankrupt because people just stopped playing their games and the server costs were too much and they never got any profit.
It's funny, I don't know who to root for, pirates or ubisoft. On one hand you have pirates who steals games, yet you have such extreme drm, you sort of think, well they don't have to deal with it for their version. Then on the other hand, now pirates can't play this game and normal customers has this extreme drm. I don't think those pirates or ubisoft is right, however I suppose there is no choice and now we have angry pirates trying to disrupt ubisoft and ubisoft using such extreme drm to disrupt pirates.
" @Phished0ne: How so? @Steam. As long as you're logged into your Steam account you can use whatever you own whenever. "its very very good drm, but its drm none the less. It prevents people who arent authorized to own something from owning it.
@sexy_nipples: Yes, you can pirate mmos, its very hard, but i know several people who have. I don't know specifics, but its completely ridiculous to walk around pretending that piracy isnt a problem. We've seen the decline of PC gaming, and its ignorant for you to say that piracy hasn't played a part in it. Piracy is why companies are starting to ditch the pc and make console games, because the drm is built into the console. You say that renting or used games are more detrimental to the games industry, but you cant rent pc games, so what would you attribute the steady decline of pc gaming to?
The reason you've never heard of of a dev closing down "because of piracy" is that there are a myriad of problems with pc gaming now-a-days, and piracy is just one, but your fooling yourself if you say its not a problem at all.
Which is why I added "On the contrary, it could also make Ubisoft implement worse DRM " :P" @xobballox said:
" @Korone said:i disagree the cracking of drm causes the companies to freak out about pirating, thus putting DRM on their products. it could go either way. "This, only because if they don't win, other companies will put shitty and ridiculous DRM on their games similar to Ubisoft's. On the contrary, it could also make Ubisoft implement worse DRM or eventually quit publishing on the PC. "" Made my day. I hope the pirates do win this one. "
Doesn't this hacking war happen every time a new DRM comes out? And the Publishers answer with stricter DRM. New tactic: don't buy games with ridiculous DRM and don't pirate them.
@sexy_nipples:
Renting services pay a lot more per game than Joe Schmo does. PC studios are focusing on consoles more than ever before so does that count? I mean, how many console developers are jumping to PC?" @ColMirage said:Myriad of problems with PC gaming? Like? I mean Bad Company 2 sold more on the PC than the PS3 version and 360 version combined. Games sell well on PC games. It is just that they barely release the sales for PC games. I mean companies would be closing down no? Devs just use it as an excuse to go multiplatform. You know PC gamers get annoyed when games get dumbed down for consoles, so devs just say "Piracy was a big problem". You expect them to say "We want more money. We're going to broaden our audience to more casual fans". Fans get annoyed when their beloved series loses all depth because of those reason. I mean PC gaming netted over $13 Billion dollars in 2010, developers barely closed down.. That is an increase over the past like 4 years." @Phished0ne: How so? @Steam. As long as you're logged into your Steam account you can use whatever you own whenever. "its very very good drm, but its drm none the less. It prevents people who arent authorized to own something from owning it.
@sexy_nipples: Yes, you can pirate mmos, its very hard, but i know several people who have. I don't know specifics, but its completely ridiculous to walk around pretending that piracy isnt a problem. We've seen the decline of PC gaming, and its ignorant for you to say that piracy hasn't played a part in it. Piracy is why companies are starting to ditch the pc and make console games, because the drm is built into the console. You say that renting or used games are more detrimental to the games industry, but you cant rent pc games, so what would you attribute the steady decline of pc gaming to? The reason you've never heard of of a dev closing down "because of piracy" is that there are a myriad of problems with pc gaming now-a-days, and piracy is just one, but your fooling yourself if you say its not a problem at all. "
Honestly, people who have no idea about PC gaming say it is dying. It has increased over the years in terms of profit. PC gaming is dying? Then why is he profit increasing? Why are devs buying out console devs and rehiring them? Why are barely any closing down or filing for bankruptcy?
Renting and used games are far more of a problem than piracy for devs nowadays. I mean why do console developers close down? Eidos? Midway? Those are huge publishers/devs. Look at the PC devs and publishers. Very, very, very few have closed down.
And pirating MMOs is like impossible. The most you can do is get on a cracked server, which is useless because people have hacked characters. Good luck for PvP.
Like I said, if PC gaming had a problem, then that means no one is buying PC games and devs would lose money and close down. Is that happening? No, console devs are closing down.
Renting services are still just as bad as piracy for devs.
Used games, renting, piracy
The devs get zero profit from it.
PC studios aren't focusing on console gaming. Most of the time they are just handing out ports. Dragon Age, Crysis 2, Supreme Commander 2, Far Cry 2, The Orange Box etc..
There is a huge gap in the quality between the PC version and console version. I'll take TF2's new equipment, game modes, 32 new maps over the $10 DLC for 360 which has like no content.
They are just easy cash ins. That is what the console businees really is for devs. Milking a series, quick cash ins = console gaming for devs. Look at activision. COD every year? Like 3 guitar hero games a year? A sports game ever year from EA? Content that you have to buy but is already on the disc? It is just extra profit because they know a lot of console gamers will bend over
Then i guess every staff member on every popular gaming website in the world knows nothing about pc gaming.Honestly, people who have no idea about PC gaming say it is dying.
maybe your right duder, who knows? you dont, i dont, only time will tell.
all i know is that devs should be kissing valves ass for making a drm system that is transparent, so transparent that most people dont even realize that it is.
" @sexy_nipples said:PC gaming needs a DRM system. Console have it in that you can't save a game on your console. Steam is the perfect answer. I can still share games with my friends, I don't have any problems. Gabe newell and the head of Gog.com both said that if buying real games and playing the real copy is more of hassle than playing a pirated version than there is a problem. Is there a problem with Steam? No. It works perfectly. not only that but find me one other place that has better game deals. I remember Arkham Aslyum cost $50 in stores for consoles. Look at the Eidos Collector Pack on Steam. Arkham Aslyum plus like 20 other games. It was on sale for $50. STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl for $2? Sure why not. KOTOR 1 for $2.50? Dirt 2 for $20 a month after it comes out? The entire Total War franchise for $20? People don't mind because the deals are phenomenal and the whole system is still easy to use.Then i guess every staff member on every popular gaming website in the world knows nothing about pc gaming.Honestly, people who have no idea about PC gaming say it is dying.
maybe your right duder, who knows? you dont, i dont, only time will tell.
all i know is that devs should be kissing valves ass for making a drm system that is transparent, so transparent that most people dont even realize that it is. "
Every staff member on a popular gaming website? Do they have any proof though? They just spout random bullshit most of the time. Like IGN, I should trust them so much. "GTA4 is the greatest game since Ocarina of Time"
+1 for IGN.
Hell, how many articles on those wondrous sites do they have actual facts and evidence? Pretty much none. You said PC gaming was going down in the past few year. But the profit for PC gaming has been continuously increasing. The reason people think so is because they are stupid. They have no evidence. They'll just believe what ever other people say. Like the Cell.
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