Super Smash Brothers 4 Part 11: Fire Emblem

For the uninitiated this is how it works. Every weekday I'll be doing a blog on the characters that deserve a roster spot in Nintendos next character smackdown. The franchises from which I'll be taking characters can be found under the "Part 1" link. If I get good feedback, I may add or change representative characters. Characters can also be added as Assist Trophies. 

The Rules:

• No more than 4 characters per franchise (trust me, it's a hard rule to follow through with)
  
• Characters have to be primarily video game characters.  (I want to add Colbert as much as you do)
  
• Characters from Nintendo will go first, followed by characters from other companies
• Characters must be major (I'm not adding Toad, or Sandshrew, or Lanky Kong. Whether a character is important enough is up to my own discression)

Part 1: Representative Franchises

Part 2: Mario Brothers

Part 3: The Legend of Zelda

Part 4: Metroid

Part 5: Starfox

Part 6: F-Zero

Part 7: Pokemon

Part 8: Kirby

Part 9: Donkey Kong

Part 10: Mother

Part 11: Fire Emblem

Synopsis: Star of the original Fire Embelm for the NES, Marth is a prince charged with taking back his kingdom and taking revenge for the death of his father the king. He weilds the Falchion.

Notable Appearances: Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon(NES Japan Only, DS), Fire Emblem: Monshou to Nazo

SSB4 Likelyhood: 10/10

Synopsis: A Mercanary and the son of Greil, Ike is forced to lead the Greil Mercenaries after his father is murdered by the Black Knight. He and Princess Elincia seem to have a close relationship. He is not nearly as much of a douche in the Fire Emblem games as he was in Super Smash Brothers

Notable Appearances: Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

SSB4 Likelyhood: 10/10

Differences: Adult Ike would likely be slower and more powerful, obviously still able to weild his 2-handed sword with one hand.

Alternate Costumes: 

Synopsis: Lyn is one of the few female lords in Fire Emblem, and one of the most popular. While she lives on the Sacae Plains, she is a member of a royal family.

Notable Appearances: Fire Emblem

SSB4 Likelyhood: 3/10

For the uninitiated this is how it works. Every weekday I'll be doing a blog on the characters that deserve a roster spot in Nintendos next character smackdown. The franchises from which I'll be taking characters can be found under the "Part 1" link. If I get good feedback, I may add or change representative characters. Characters can also be added as Assist Trophies. 

The Rules:

• No more than 4 characters per franchise (trust me, it's a hard rule to follow through with)
  
• Characters have to be primarily video game characters.  (I want to add Colbert as much as you do)
  
• Characters from Nintendo will go first, followed by characters from other companies
• Characters must be major (I'm not adding Toad, or Sandshrew, or Lanky Kong. Whether a character is important enough is up to my own discression)

Part 1: Representative Franchises

Part 2: Mario Brothers

Part 3: The Legend of Zelda

Part 4: Metroid

Part 5: Starfox

Part 6: F-Zero

Part 7: Pokemon

Part 8: Kirby

Part 9: Donkey Kong

Part 10: Mother

Part 11: Fire Emblem

Synopsis: Star of the original Fire Embelm for the NES, Marth is a prince charged with taking back his kingdom and taking revenge for the death of his father the king. He weilds the Falchion.

Notable Appearances: Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon(NES Japan Only, DS), Fire Emblem: Monshou to Nazo

SSB4 Likelyhood: 10/10

Synopsis: A Mercanary and the son of Greil, Ike is forced to lead the Greil Mercenaries after his father is murdered by the Black Knight. He and Princess Elincia seem to have a close relationship. He is not nearly as much of a douche in the Fire Emblem games as he was in Super Smash Brothers

Notable Appearances: Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

SSB4 Likelyhood: 10/10

Differences: Adult Ike would likely be slower and more powerful, obviously still able to weild his 2-handed sword with one hand.

Alternate Costumes: 

Synopsis: Lyn is one of the few female lords in Fire Emblem, and one of the most popular. While she lives on the Sacae Plains, she is a member of a royal family.

Notable Appearances: Fire Emblem

SSB4 Likelyhood: 3/10

I want Roy back.  He was awesome on Melee.

So, what should I do next? Remember, I'm still on nintendo. If you are having a hard time thinking of a next entry, take a look at Part 1: Representative Franchises

Oh, you're asking a Fire Emblem expert. I'm only going to use on-foot characters, since it'd be kinda weird to see any of the characters riding anything throughout the game. It's been a long time, so I may be a bit rusty, but...

Alm: Come on, the guy stabbed a unicorn-dragon-thing in the head! He'd be the fast, nimble, kinda weak character.
Celice: Ah, yes, the Prince of Light to a bleak, Grandbell-ruled world. He'd be the all-around balanced character.
Marth: Hey, he's good enough to stay.
Any of the Navarre-esque Myrmidons: Again, like Alm. Only twice as much, and 100 times more badass.

"Video_Game_King said:

"Oh, you're asking a Fire Emblem expert. I'm only going to use on-foot characters, since it'd be kinda weird to see any of the characters riding anything throughout the game. It's been a long time, so I may be a bit rusty, but...Alm: Come on, the guy stabbed a unicorn-dragon-thing in the head! He'd be the fast, nimble, kinda weak character.Celice: Ah, yes, the Prince of Light to a bleak, Grandbell-ruled world. He'd be the all-around balanced character.Marth: Hey, he's good enough to stay.Any of the Navarre-esque Myrmidons: Again, like Alm. Only twice as much, and 100 times more badass."

While those characters are probably great(who?) they break one of the rules I made, which states that characters must be major, so I'm not using any of the characters you pick up along the quest, essentially just the lords. I also wanted to just use characters whose games are available in America (I have only played the localized games). A myrmidon would be friggin awesome though."

I'll play them as soon as Nintendo imports them on VC. like they did with sin and punishment and Super Mario Bros 2(the real one). besides, these 3 are good right?

Keep in mind that both those games were already translated into English; the Japan only Fire Emblems were ENTIRELY in Japanese. Plus this is from a text heavy genre. You might as well ask why they haven't given us Americans Mystic Ark. And I like my other choices. Lyn is OK, but I want some fresh faces. Especially Celice. (FE4=Best Game Ever. Ever ever ever.)

No Sigurd love? He's a pretty cool character from the SNES games, and loads of folks called for him in SSBB.

"No Sigurd love? He's a pretty cool character from the SNES games, and loads of folks called for him in SSBB."

"Video_Game_King said:

"Keep in mind that both those games were already translated into English; the Japan only Fire Emblems were ENTIRELY in Japanese. Plus this is from a text heavy genre. You might as well ask why they haven't given us Americans Mystic Ark. And I like my other choices. Lyn is OK, but I want some fresh faces. Especially Celice. (FE4=Best Game Ever. Ever ever ever.)"

Wait, what? There were SNES Fire Emblems in English?"

Right, thats what I thought. I have all the fire emblem games released stateside. when you said they were "already translated" i got confused. But yeah, these are popular players, and smash players across the world know them. I may add some of these guys as assist trophies though, or maybe they'd be better as alternate skins?

"Right, thats what I thought. I have all the fire emblem games released stateside. when you said they were "already translated" i got confused. But yeah, these are popular players, and smash players across the world know them. I may add some of these guys as assist trophies though, or maybe they'd be better as alternate skins?"

Sweet Jesus Lyn, cover them legs! Do you feel a draft?

"Sweet Jesus Lyn, cover them legs! Do you feel a draft?"

"Video_Game_King said:

"AgentJ said:

"Right, thats what I thought. I have all the fire emblem games released stateside. when you said they were "already translated" i got confused. But yeah, these are popular players, and smash players across the world know them. I may add some of these guys as assist trophies though, or maybe they'd be better as alternate skins?"

When I said "already translated," I was referring back to S&P (bad game) and SMB2 (good game)."

Hey now, I love Sin and Punishment. Dont be hating."

I demand to see Hector as a playable character.

I suppose you think Starfox 64 was bad too? they were essentially the same game, though one was a character on the ground.

I suppose it's just a difference of opinion. I loved the game, and can't wait for part 2 on the wii. Haven't actually finished it yet... Anywho, yeah, with Fire Embelm, i feel its better to use characters that everyone knows, rather than just players of the Japanese game. Nintendo needs to bring these and the Mother games over someday...

"I suppose it's just a difference of opinion. I loved the game, and can't wait for part 2 on the wii. Haven't actually finished it yet... Anywho, yeah, with Fire Embelm, i feel its better to use characters that everyone knows, rather than just players of the Japanese game. Nintendo needs to bring these and the Mother games over someday..."

"AgentJ said:

"I suppose it's just a difference of opinion. I loved the game, and can't wait for part 2 on the wii. Haven't actually finished it yet... Anywho, yeah, with Fire Embelm, i feel its better to use characters that everyone knows, rather than just players of the Japanese game. Nintendo needs to bring these and the Mother games over someday..."

*sees Mother* Oh God...not again...and I just finished the S&P argument."

"Video_Game_King said:

"AgentJ said:

"I suppose it's just a difference of opinion. I loved the game, and can't wait for part 2 on the wii. Haven't actually finished it yet... Anywho, yeah, with Fire Embelm, i feel its better to use characters that everyone knows, rather than just players of the Japanese game. Nintendo needs to bring these and the Mother games over someday..."

*sees Mother* Oh God...not again...and I just finished the S&P argument."

I haven't played mother or earthbound myself, but i'm not going to try until we get them here on VC or a port."

Coming from someone who didnt like Sin and Punishment, I dont think ill be taking your advice. So, who exactly from Fire Emblem were you hoping I'd add?

"Coming from someone who didnt like Sin and Punishment, I dont think ill be taking your advice. So, who exactly from Fire Emblem were you hoping I'd add?"

haven't played many dragon warrior games, though im looking forward to IX. I just looked through the characters you talked about earlier, and I couldn't find a convincing reason to add them even as assist trophies.

"haven't played many dragon warrior games, though im looking forward to IX. I just looked through the characters you talked about earlier, and I couldn't find a convincing reason to add them even as assist trophies."

"Video_Game_King said:

"AgentJ said:

"haven't played many dragon warrior games, though im looking forward to IX. I just looked through the characters you talked about earlier, and I couldn't find a convincing reason to add them even as assist trophies."

Really? Not even Celice? He was a pretty important character in the game, given that he was the protagonist AND the son of a martyr, giving the people of Jugdral hope for the future."

Yeah, but he wasn't particularly interesting-looking. I think that if he was really important they would have had him in instead of Roy in Melee. i'd just rather see them do Ike right next time."

Right, so he was popular at the time. My point is that Roy has a much better chance then anyone older in the series."

But people never heard of Roy until Melee. Isn't that proof that less popular characters should get a chance?

"Video_Game_King said:

"But people never heard of Roy until Melee. Isn't that proof that less popular characters should get a chance?"

Like I said earlier, i wouldn't have a problem putting some other characters in, but you haven't yet convinced me that they are important enough to make it. Besides, there is only one slot left for a fighter from fire emblem, and thanks to Roys popularity, he would probably be the one to take that slot. I understand that you, who has played many, if not all, of the games in the series, would know better which characters are good/important, but i have to take name recognition into account. "

Mother 3 is still Japan only. I'm trying to say that you shouldn't limit yourself to international releases.

Wait, we're getting a Stafy game? Must....play...other Stafy games...

"Video_Game_King said:

"Mother 3 is still Japan only. I'm trying to say that you shouldn't limit yourself to international releases.Wait, we're getting a Stafy game? Must....play...other Stafy games..."

Yep, we're getting the legend of Stafy for the DS. im not convinced that I want it."

Dark nut (looks like a dark knight, is usually very formidable opponent, is in both Ocarina of time and Twilight Princess)

The Dark Knight

I meant to do an April Fools post last week, which would have included characters like Batman, but totally forgot. Maybe at the end I'll have a thing of characters that could never make it into the game.

Needs more Titania

Titania was a very cool character, but seeing as how the characters picked for SSB4 have to represent the entire franchise, I dont think she is important enough.