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    Game » consists of 16 releases. Released Mar 08, 2011

    This sequel to Dragon Age: Origins features faster combat, a new art style, and a brand new, fully voiced main character named Hawke.

    Double the Demo's, Twice the Impressions!

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    Edited By Yummylee

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    Now there's already 101 threads dedicated to peoples own opinions towards the Dragon Age 2 demo, but with so many then surely another can't hurt? And if it does BIG WHUP, WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT
     
    So, Dragon Age 2.. I was a day late with my own indulgence into the origins (Or singular origin I should say) of Hawke due to the PS3 being my online proprietor of choice, which while in the UK also unexplainably leaves all PS store updates to take place the day after.. usually at around 4pm as well, for the added insult. In any case, wednesday arrived, and my own playthroughs through these small snippets began! 
     

    Dragon Age 2 as an demo

    It's pretty shoddy, overall. It definitely gives a good taste of what to expect but only in its simplest forms. You engage in a few battles, level up a little and get the chance to converse a few times, but no Hawke customisation, looted armour/weapons to equip and an incredibly rushed turn to the recruiting of Isabella has not left me with the feeling that this demo is all that it could be. Especially when you compare it to the Mass Effect 2 demo released this year, which gave maybe almost an hours worth of content in there? With everything you needed to experience to understand the aspects of Mass Effect 2. 
     
     CHYEAAAAH..
     CHYEAAAAH..
    It's not the worst demo ever, mind you, and the combat portions certainly do a grand job of setting you up on how the game plays. Being able to enjoy the exaggerated takes on the story via Varric was a very nice touch, sisterly mammoth tits and all! 
    The dialogue choices in between all the action brake up the pace nicely much like you'd expect, and give a good representation of just what sort of ''emotes'' you can expect, and then some. No idea what the ''diamond'' emote means. 
      

    Dragon Age 2 on the ps3

    Now this is also where the demo began to lose me a little. Overall, it's a massive improvement from how Origins ran on the PS3, but little inklings still exist; such as there always being a slight pause when combat will transition to cutscenes, aswell as stuttering during conversations at that. The worst of all is one that has been brought forth from Origins itself. The glitch that should you enter the wheel too fast when combat is initiated, it'll completely reverse the properties with the game pausing when the wheels down, and in motion when the wheels up! Looks like BioWare took the 'importing from Origins'' feature a little too seriously. The main problem, however, is that during Origins when this happened all I had to do was pause the game to revert everything to normal... not in DA2, I'm afraid, which required to exit the bloody game! 
     
    I also really didn't enjoy having to constantly press X over and over for the character I'm controlling to attack. Fortunately that can be turned off, but why it wasn't an option brings me back to why this was just a really weird and lame demo. It's still well above the technical prowess of Origins non the less, so one step at a time, I guess.. 
     

    Dragon Age 2 as an RPG

    This is totally a Dragon Age game! It plays very similar to its previous console counterpart, and even with some improvements this time around, like actually allowing you to stack up a command per party member, instead of instantly reverting to gameplay once you selected an action for a single party member. 
     
    The style of it is also lookin' pretty good, though from what they shown in the demo isn't anything that'll strike you nor give you much reason to believe otherwise. A great deal more animations at least give the game a new coat of polish. The melee animations I don't like as much, though; more specifically with the 2H weapons. In Origins they really felt like they carried all this weight, while in DA2 it's all so swift and doesn't match the feeling of power nor the brute force that is required in Origins. Mages are significantly better, though, I'll admit. Especially since they can use their staves as a melee weapon should the need arise. 
     
    The voice acting is another mixed affair, similar to Origins I suppose, with some pretty good performances (Varric is really rather awesome) to some downright flat attempts at emotion. (is my mum doped on pain killers or something?) 
     
    The classes all feel so much more distinctive over another, and while some cuts are pretty sucky, such as no bows for warriors, it makes sense in the grand scheme and assures you that each class will give you a radically different kind of Hawke. Speaking of Hawke, it's tough to judge at this point, but from what I've seen s/he's fine at this point I think. It is nice to have your character have a voice, even if it is at the sacrifice at a much more restricted character. The dialogue wheel that accompanies it is a fine gesture as well, with you now being assured as to what'll push the conversations forward and wish are there to keep it on the same level, thanks to the 'Investigation' menu found on the left. 
     
    All in all, I'm willing to accept Hawke as the lead and will still no doubt find a multitude of reasons to get right back into it and vary up my choices. Mass Effect 2 was still able to get me six playthroughs, so Dragon Age 2 is a shoe in :P 
     

     I know Kung-Fu!  
     I know Kung-Fu!  

    Moving away from the Medieval Fantasy to a more modern, fist in face orientated environment: 
     

    Yakuza 4!

    Definitely one of my favourite boxarts this year!
    Definitely one of my favourite boxarts this year!
     
    Unfortunately there's really not that much to say about it. All the demo offers is you to battle it out as each character, one after another. Starting with Shun Akiyama (who looks to of become this games leading man, over Kazuma),  Masayoshi Tanimura, Taiga Saejima and then finally the Master Lord God himself, Kazuma. 
     
    It at least gives you enough to help differentiate the four characters. Naturally they all have their own combos and HEAT moves, but then there's the huge imposing bruiser Taiga who can lift objects the others cannot. It was especially fun as Kazuma, who is rife with all of his trademark attacks and plenty of his Yakuza 3 upgrades from the outset. And playing as Masayoshi was a thrill as his fighting ground was atop a roof, to were he could fling the enemies right off should he have himself in HEAT mode.
     
    No opportunities to explore any of the HUB worlds is a shame, with no minigames to test yourself with, but the games main draw, the combat, is well established thanks to this, still terribly short, demo. 
     
    Not like I needed much more persuasion, but even still the demo of Yakuza 4 has assured me that the fighting is as incredibly brutal and fun as I would of hoped. There were still moments that had me literally laugh out loud over the absurdity, and while the demo may be short, it's still enjoyable enough for me to head right back in! 
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    #1  Edited By Yummylee

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    Now there's already 101 threads dedicated to peoples own opinions towards the Dragon Age 2 demo, but with so many then surely another can't hurt? And if it does BIG WHUP, WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT
     
    So, Dragon Age 2.. I was a day late with my own indulgence into the origins (Or singular origin I should say) of Hawke due to the PS3 being my online proprietor of choice, which while in the UK also unexplainably leaves all PS store updates to take place the day after.. usually at around 4pm as well, for the added insult. In any case, wednesday arrived, and my own playthroughs through these small snippets began! 
     

    Dragon Age 2 as an demo

    It's pretty shoddy, overall. It definitely gives a good taste of what to expect but only in its simplest forms. You engage in a few battles, level up a little and get the chance to converse a few times, but no Hawke customisation, looted armour/weapons to equip and an incredibly rushed turn to the recruiting of Isabella has not left me with the feeling that this demo is all that it could be. Especially when you compare it to the Mass Effect 2 demo released this year, which gave maybe almost an hours worth of content in there? With everything you needed to experience to understand the aspects of Mass Effect 2. 
     
     CHYEAAAAH..
     CHYEAAAAH..
    It's not the worst demo ever, mind you, and the combat portions certainly do a grand job of setting you up on how the game plays. Being able to enjoy the exaggerated takes on the story via Varric was a very nice touch, sisterly mammoth tits and all! 
    The dialogue choices in between all the action brake up the pace nicely much like you'd expect, and give a good representation of just what sort of ''emotes'' you can expect, and then some. No idea what the ''diamond'' emote means. 
      

    Dragon Age 2 on the ps3

    Now this is also where the demo began to lose me a little. Overall, it's a massive improvement from how Origins ran on the PS3, but little inklings still exist; such as there always being a slight pause when combat will transition to cutscenes, aswell as stuttering during conversations at that. The worst of all is one that has been brought forth from Origins itself. The glitch that should you enter the wheel too fast when combat is initiated, it'll completely reverse the properties with the game pausing when the wheels down, and in motion when the wheels up! Looks like BioWare took the 'importing from Origins'' feature a little too seriously. The main problem, however, is that during Origins when this happened all I had to do was pause the game to revert everything to normal... not in DA2, I'm afraid, which required to exit the bloody game! 
     
    I also really didn't enjoy having to constantly press X over and over for the character I'm controlling to attack. Fortunately that can be turned off, but why it wasn't an option brings me back to why this was just a really weird and lame demo. It's still well above the technical prowess of Origins non the less, so one step at a time, I guess.. 
     

    Dragon Age 2 as an RPG

    This is totally a Dragon Age game! It plays very similar to its previous console counterpart, and even with some improvements this time around, like actually allowing you to stack up a command per party member, instead of instantly reverting to gameplay once you selected an action for a single party member. 
     
    The style of it is also lookin' pretty good, though from what they shown in the demo isn't anything that'll strike you nor give you much reason to believe otherwise. A great deal more animations at least give the game a new coat of polish. The melee animations I don't like as much, though; more specifically with the 2H weapons. In Origins they really felt like they carried all this weight, while in DA2 it's all so swift and doesn't match the feeling of power nor the brute force that is required in Origins. Mages are significantly better, though, I'll admit. Especially since they can use their staves as a melee weapon should the need arise. 
     
    The voice acting is another mixed affair, similar to Origins I suppose, with some pretty good performances (Varric is really rather awesome) to some downright flat attempts at emotion. (is my mum doped on pain killers or something?) 
     
    The classes all feel so much more distinctive over another, and while some cuts are pretty sucky, such as no bows for warriors, it makes sense in the grand scheme and assures you that each class will give you a radically different kind of Hawke. Speaking of Hawke, it's tough to judge at this point, but from what I've seen s/he's fine at this point I think. It is nice to have your character have a voice, even if it is at the sacrifice at a much more restricted character. The dialogue wheel that accompanies it is a fine gesture as well, with you now being assured as to what'll push the conversations forward and wish are there to keep it on the same level, thanks to the 'Investigation' menu found on the left. 
     
    All in all, I'm willing to accept Hawke as the lead and will still no doubt find a multitude of reasons to get right back into it and vary up my choices. Mass Effect 2 was still able to get me six playthroughs, so Dragon Age 2 is a shoe in :P 
     

     I know Kung-Fu!  
     I know Kung-Fu!  

    Moving away from the Medieval Fantasy to a more modern, fist in face orientated environment: 
     

    Yakuza 4!

    Definitely one of my favourite boxarts this year!
    Definitely one of my favourite boxarts this year!
     
    Unfortunately there's really not that much to say about it. All the demo offers is you to battle it out as each character, one after another. Starting with Shun Akiyama (who looks to of become this games leading man, over Kazuma),  Masayoshi Tanimura, Taiga Saejima and then finally the Master Lord God himself, Kazuma. 
     
    It at least gives you enough to help differentiate the four characters. Naturally they all have their own combos and HEAT moves, but then there's the huge imposing bruiser Taiga who can lift objects the others cannot. It was especially fun as Kazuma, who is rife with all of his trademark attacks and plenty of his Yakuza 3 upgrades from the outset. And playing as Masayoshi was a thrill as his fighting ground was atop a roof, to were he could fling the enemies right off should he have himself in HEAT mode.
     
    No opportunities to explore any of the HUB worlds is a shame, with no minigames to test yourself with, but the games main draw, the combat, is well established thanks to this, still terribly short, demo. 
     
    Not like I needed much more persuasion, but even still the demo of Yakuza 4 has assured me that the fighting is as incredibly brutal and fun as I would of hoped. There were still moments that had me literally laugh out loud over the absurdity, and while the demo may be short, it's still enjoyable enough for me to head right back in! 
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    #2  Edited By Somadude

    March is looking pretty awesome for games. Good thing Yakuza 4 comes out around my birthday.
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    #3  Edited By mordukai

    I was never as conflicted as I am right now about a game. It just feels off. Frankly I can boil down my DA2 impression to one single sentence.  
     
    Origins felt like a PC game ported to consoles and DA2 feels like a console game ported to PC. Take it as it is. 

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    #4  Edited By Jazz

    Noice write up. 
    One major problem i had with DA2 was how small the writing was compared to DAO on my CRT. It's not a small CRT by any standards (and its not even mine) but the subs on DAO were easily readable, DA2 i have to squint to read anything..and I have glasses to begin with. 
    Not cool Bioware. 
    Also apart from Varric the VO sucked. Badly. I had no problems with DAO's VO..but this was just too much 
    Combat did nothing for me either really... 
    Still getting it for the story, but some of the fears people had seem founded. Hopefully it's just a shitty demo, I found the ME2 ps3 demo shite, but enjoyed the full game.

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    #5  Edited By Yummylee
    @Somadude:  
    That it is. Well, actually, isn't there really only Yakuza 4 and Dragon Age 2 in March? Still a great lineup for just a single month, even still. Plus I just remembered that on the first day of this joyous month the Dead Space 2 Severed DLC is released 8D. 
    So yeah, you're right, March will be a fine month indeed! 
     
    @Mordukai:  
    I feel the same way. Maybe I'll better ease into it when I can turn auto-attack on, but even still it does just.. feel vaguely different. Now more than ever do I wish that I could pull back the camera for an isometric view on the console versions. 
     
    @Jazz:  
    The voice acting has been less than impressive so far, totally. =/ Brian Bloom naturally delivers excellently as Varric, and I think male Hawke is decent enough, though both Bethany and Carver strike as being pretty bored at this point, with the mother, like I pointed out, sounding like she's on a heavy dose of meds. It is a traumatising experience to lose your home to an army of skeletor cosplayers, though, so I guess it's understandable that she may be under a synthetic influence :P
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    #6  Edited By Jazz
    @Abyssfull:  
    What..the Geth? 
    OH NOES!
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    #7  Edited By BraveFart

    Already pre-ordered Yakuza 4. Afterall Yakuza 3 was really fun with beatiful japanese surroundings (except the junkyard ^^)
     
    oh and im a big fan of the side missions. ^^

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    #9  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    If it makes you feel any better, I read your blog. And I really don't have a ton to say, other than the part where I agree that the Demo isn't amazing. It's not terrible, but it's not meant for you and me, people who already are going to buy this game regardless. It's for Joe Shmoe on Xbox live who downloaded the demo because there was a dude with a sword. Considering I did my Signature Edition pre-order months ago, I am not the individual the demo is trying to reach.

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    #10  Edited By kingzetta

    Told you the yakuza demo was not good, But the game the itself will be wonderful
    Even more so because you don't have to play as Kazuma, until the very very end of the game.

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    #11  Edited By Nasar7

    The Yakuza 4 demo was kind of a letdown. Of the new characters I only enjoyed Akiyama's fighting style; the others just didn't click with me. Of course I could see it being better in the full game with access to upgrades and the move list, but still.

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    #12  Edited By HS21

    Played the DA2 demo more times than I thought I would. Pumped for it to come out now I just need to finish Origins. All I have to do now is go to the Landsmeet so I guess I'm almost done. Just gonna solider through it and avoid sidequests. So hard to get back into an RPG you've put 60 hours into after not playing it for months and months.

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    #13  Edited By Yummylee
    @ArbitraryWater:   
    Even as someone who 'doesn't have a ton to say', you have one of the largest comments here ;P 
     
    @kingzetta:  
    I don't think the demo was bad, but just terribly short. The fights were still fun enough that I played through them a small number of times. Also what you got against the Dragon?? =O 
     
    @Nasar7:  
    Really? Akiyama was probably my least favourite, though still a fun dood, out of the four. I liked the Undercover Cop for his more kick boxing style of fighting, and I'm generally a fan of fists of fury rather than never ending combos of kicks :P.  
    Tanimura was the standout as, again, he can lift all those barrels you see with previous characters but couldn't lift, and some his own HEAT moves are some of the most hilarious. Shame about him looking like a bit of a bum. As for Kazuma... man, it's fucking Kazuma!  
     
    @HS21:  
    I know what you mean. I've still got a couple of mid-game playthroughs that I decided to head into instead of creating a new, after a small hiatus... it didn't go so well and took me a while just to remember how I specced my party and their roles ect. The easiest one, though, is my elf mage who's an Arcane Warrior, and I'm not surprised why they took that out for DA2 as it's so goddamn unstoppable! Just learn yourself all of the ''active'' mode spells with all the shields, debuffs ect, with some heavy armour, shield and he's nigh invincible.
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    #14  Edited By kingzetta
    @Abyssfull said:
    " @ArbitraryWater:   
    Even as someone who 'doesn't have a ton to say', you have one of the largest comments here ;P 
     
    @kingzetta:  
    I don't think the demo was bad, but just terribly short. The fights were still fun enough that I played through them a small number of times. Also what you got against the Dragon?? =O 
     
    I've played as him through 3 games. I want to play as someone besides Japanese superman.
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    #15  Edited By Yummylee
    @kingzetta:  
    Fair enough. I've only played Yakuza 3, so I'm not nearly bored of him just yet
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    #16  Edited By bravetoaster

    I liked the Dragon Age 2 demo. Can't wait to buy it.

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    #17  Edited By Seppli

    FYI PC has the same rough transitions for cut-scenes as you've experienced in the PS3 version. At least for me.

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