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    Raiden is one of the main characters in the Metal Gear series. He has gone from an Army XXI grunt, to a soldier whose abilities rival the legendary Solid Snake, to a cyborg ninja with superhuman capabilities.

    Raiden is the fucking best.

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    #1  Edited By I_smell

    I was just readin this thread and I remembered that the internet is totes gay.  What I'm talkin about is how everyone hates Raiden.
     
    Yo, Raiden is the man.
     
    The internet is all BOOHOO I WANTED TO PLAY AS SNAKE THIS GUY IS A FAG ETC. But don't you get it?
    RAIDEN ALSO WANTED TO PLAY AS SNAKE. YOU ARE THE RAIDEN.
    He went through VR simulations over n over again. He's heard the stories about Snake and Liquid, and Shadow Moses n all that bollocks.  "VR training" is code for MGS1. He has played MGS1.
    He knows Colonel Campbell, he refuses to accept the lies about how Snake is all evil cos he idolises the guy, he's the only one who never knows what the hell is going on, and he spends the whole game tryin to force himself into this badass hero persona that he clearly doesn't fit.
    He's not a super soldier, or some weird clone thing, he's pretty much just a guy with no remarkable past or experiences (until the end).
    So MGS2 is a game about Solid Snake, told from the 2nd-person perspective of Raiden, who is a mirror of the player coming from MGS1. He's an even better mirror of the player who hasn't played MGS1, cos he's a total noob.
     
    I so hate that they came out with MGS4 an said OH HEY, Y'KNOW THE SMARTEST IDEA WE'VE DONE WITH THE SERIES SO FAR? YEAH WELL NOBODY GOT IT, SO NOW HE'S A BADASS ROBOT NINJA. It's like they might aswel av said OH, AND SNAKE IS NOW A T-REX BY THE WAY. AND OTACON IS IRON MAN.
     
    So yeah, Raiden is a really clever idea in a game about robot dinosaurs with rail guns for hands. An idea that was later scrapped cos too many people swung for the FUCKING EASY joke of him being gay.

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    #2  Edited By TwoOneFive

      oh, and... 
    Cool story bro.
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    #3  Edited By Goly

    this post is pure genius.

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    #4  Edited By TwoOneFive

    ps. i think you care about Raiden...a little too much... to say the least.
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    #5  Edited By PerryVandell

    Uh... what?

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    I had no problem with Raiden in MGS2. I liked him!

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    #7  Edited By TwoOneFive

    wtf no remarkable past or whatever?!?? how about being raised by solidus snake and fighting wars in a an army of children 
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    #8  Edited By Baillie
    @I_smell said:
    "He went through VR simulations over n over again. He's heard the stories about Snake and Liquid, and Shadow Moses n all that bollocks.  "VR training" is code for MGS1. He has played MGS1."
    OH NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE! 
    You are retarded.
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    #9  Edited By Cazamalos

    but i'm not a gay cyborg ninja :(

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    #10  Edited By Expletive

    Cool story, bro.
     
     
    However after reading that I want to go play MGS4 for the 5th time, so... Thanks?

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    #11  Edited By bicycleham

    As long as I was playing Metal Gear I really didn't give a shit.

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    #12  Edited By I_smell
    @TwoOneFive said:
    " wtf no remarkable past or whatever?!?? how about being raised by solidus snake and fighting wars in a an army of children  "
    Yeah, the whole idea falls apart at the end.
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    #13  Edited By Baillie
    @I_smell said:
    " @TwoOneFive said:
    " wtf no remarkable past or whatever?!?? how about being raised by solidus snake and fighting wars in a an army of children  "
    Yeah, the whole idea falls apart at the end. "
    What do you mean?
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    #14  Edited By I_smell
    @Baillie said:
    " @I_smell said:
    "He went through VR simulations over n over again. He's heard the stories about Snake and Liquid, and Shadow Moses n all that bollocks.  "VR training" is code for MGS1. He has played MGS1."
    OH NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE! You are retarded. "
    His flashbacks are all PS1 game footage, I'm not just pullin this out of nowhere.
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    #15  Edited By JJOR64

     This Raiden?
     This Raiden?
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    #16  Edited By Baillie
    @I_smell said:
    " @Baillie said:
    " @I_smell said:
    "He went through VR simulations over n over again. He's heard the stories about Snake and Liquid, and Shadow Moses n all that bollocks.  "VR training" is code for MGS1. He has played MGS1."
    OH NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE! You are retarded. "
    His flashbacks are all PS1 game footage, I'm not just pullin this out of nowhere. "
    Yes, because something that is real in a game world becomes a game... in a game world?
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    #17  Edited By Mmmslash

    While you raise an interesting point of contention, that I think has a lot of evidence behind it, that I have never heard before, this is what I feel:
     
    I, even as a rampant homosexual, fucking hate Raiden. I hate his pretty-boy attitude, I hate his whiny girlfriend, and I hate his stupid peroxide hair. I hate everything he stood for, and when he got pissed on, and Campbell and Rose made fun of him, I fucking cheered.
     
    I've never been so reluctant as I was in MGS4, when we had to find a machine to heal that dink.

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    #18  Edited By voodooterror
    @JJOR64 said:
    "
     This Raiden?
     This Raiden?
    "
    this is the raiden i thought the thread was going to be about, how disappointed i was :(
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     This Raiden?
     This Raiden?
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    #20  Edited By The_Laughing_Man

     HES A FIRIN HIS LAZER! 
     HES A FIRIN HIS LAZER! 
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    #21  Edited By obcdexter

    Hmm, funny thoughts...
    Didn't Kojima openly admit that they just wanted to draw a broader audience (female players, to be more precise) and did some surveys what kind of character they'd rather like to play?

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    #22  Edited By Snipzor
    @Mmmslash said:
    " While you raise an interesting point of contention, that I think has a lot of evidence behind it, that I have never heard before, this is what I feel:  I, even as a rampant homosexual, fucking hate Raiden. I hate his pretty-boy attitude, I hate his whiny girlfriend, and I hate his stupid peroxide hair. I hate everything he stood for, and when he got pissed on, and Campbell and Rose made fun of him, I fucking cheered.  I've never been so reluctant as I was in MGS4, when we had to find a machine to heal that dink. "
    These are very valid points, but Kojima still doesn't give two shits. And neither do I really... I hate being the only one in the god damn world who didn't hate Raiden.
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    #23  Edited By NTM

    Raiden was cool when I played him. And I remember when people didn't like playing as him in two. Buuuut um, ya know no one cares now? Ha, ever since four I don't think anyone has anything against Raiden as a character.
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    #24  Edited By Symphony
    @obcdexter said:
    " Hmm, funny thoughts... Didn't Kojima openly admit that they just wanted to draw a broader audience (female players, to be more precise) and did some surveys what kind of character they'd rather like to play? "
    Then he failed miserably. Raiden is nothing compared to Snake, and the fact MGS2 was garbage from a story standpoint didn't exactly help Raiden's case.
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    #25  Edited By Mmmslash
    @Symphony: I'm glad somebody else around here has some kind of sense.
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    #26  Edited By MetalGearSunny
    @cazamalos said:
    " but i'm not a gay cyborg ninja :( "
    Raiden isn't gay, he has a kid. 
     
    SPOILERZZZZZZZZ
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    #27  Edited By Snipzor
    @Mmmslash: Well I'm sorry that I'm too crazy and stupid to be considered sensible.
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    #28  Edited By Mmmslash
    @Metal_Gear_Sunny: Plenty of gay men have girlfriends, and wives, and children.
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    #29  Edited By MetalGearSunny
    @Mmmslash: Such as?
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    #30  Edited By Snipzor
    @Metal_Gear_Sunny: Every republican senator.
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    #31  Edited By MetalGearSunny
    @Snipzor said:
    " @Metal_Gear_Sunny: Every republican senator. "
    OHHHHH SHIT!
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    #32  Edited By Mmmslash
    @Metal_Gear_Sunny: Thousands? Tens of thousands? A lot of forcibly-outed politicians?
     
    This is not an unheard of thing.
     
    @Snipzor: I wasn't referring to you, Snip =(
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    #33  Edited By Snipzor
    @Mmmslash: I'm only joking.
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    #34  Edited By Jambones
    @cazamalos said:
    " but i'm not a gay cyborg ninja :( "
    Well, color me slightly disappointed...
     
    Never minded Raiden in particular.
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    #35  Edited By damswedon

    i liked raiden, i like him more now he is a badass cyborg ninja.

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    #36  Edited By Canberra

    @Mmmslash said:

    " I, even as a rampant homosexual,"

    I implore that you open more comments like this.

    Also, while i don't like Riden’s "get up" I do appreciate him as like a not-a-Snake if everyone was as rugged and professional as Snake he wouldn't be special.

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    #37  Edited By Snipzor
    @Canberra said:
    "I implore that you open more comments like this.

    Also, while i don't like Riden’s "get up" I do appreciate him as like a not-a-Snake if everyone was as rugged and professional as Snake he wouldn't be special."

    I implore you to open up more of your own comments like that, why don't you? 
     
    Also, thanks for saying I'm one of your favorites, that made my day.
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    #38  Edited By zanzibarbreeze

    Raiden is far superior to Snake. Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game in the series. Raiden and Solidus are the best characters in the series.

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    #39  Edited By Canberra
    @Snipzor:
    no problem
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    #40  Edited By cstrang

    My brain hurts due to the initial post.  And the discussion posts aren't helping.

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    #41  Edited By Mmmslash
    @Canberra:  I, as a rampant homosexual, happily oblige.
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    #42  Edited By Snipzor
    @Mmmslash: And I, as a rampant crazy person, find joy in these statement introductions.
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    #43  Edited By gla55jAw

    I liked Raiden back in MGS2. Having a sword was awesome. I never found him annoying or anything.

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    #44  Edited By jacksukeru

    I liked Raiden in 4.

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    #45  Edited By GunstarRed

    I liked Raiden in 2...probably more than 4.  I don't find him to be all that annoying... Otacon is  much more annoying when He's all like "E.E...E.E wahhhh wahhhh" He's probably one of the few characters that actually deserves their extended ending in MGS4.
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    #46  Edited By PillClinton

    Even Kojima doesn't like Raiden, though.  He totally degraded the shit out of his character in mgs3 with the whole Col. Volgin/ man-thong thing.

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    #47  Edited By I_smell

    Yeah but that was so fan-service.  He probably doesn't like him by now though anyway.
     
    If anyone's interested, here's a little part o the Making Of that came with the game; it mentions briefly how Raiden isn't really a character as much as he's a plot device actin as the player's perspective on Snake and the whole Metal Gear fiction in general.
     
    And I agree that Raiden's a huge ladyboy, but I got over it within like half an hour.

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