I've just read about how you end up losing Quiet as a buddy when you finish her story. Is there anything that requires Quiet to get other than the butterfly emblem?

Some character specific cut scenes and a cool buddy. Everything that matters is before that.

What is real weird is that you can kill her after the first fight. Then you never have the scenes with her. It really makes me wonder about the mission 35 (ish that was like twenty game hours ago for me) Skullface line. "someone close to you "

You lose her after completing a mission (45) which activates when you have maxed out her bond, and completed one of the other story missions (44 I think) and some time has passed (Side Ops or some other crap).

Losing her is unavoidable if you activate the Side Op that activates mission 45. You can prevent that activation by having that butterfly emblem in your logo, but you won't be able to finish her story if you do that. You can do that thing at the very end of your game though, because it is not necessary to finish that in order to unlock the rest of the game (missions 46-50).

If you are playing on PC you can edit some things, and pretend it never happens.

@chu52: (accidentally deleted my post lol)

Doesn't seem like killing her was meant to stick. From what I hear you can replay the mission, choose not to, and everything will be fine.

@littlerapscallion: oh yeah. I went so far as to use rubber bullets when I did mission 11 because I wanted to have her on my side. I am now really curious as to how her being dead plays out, but it kinda seems like nobody made and stuck with that choice. So I guess I have a second play through to get to....................someday

@chu52: When I first played that mission, I killed her just because I wanted to see if I could. I dunno about the later parts of the game, because I went and unkilled her, but I do know that several cut-scenes just straight up don't happen without her. Like, the one where the jet attacks the helicopter after getting her. Just doesn't happen. I'd assume that stuff like her being "interrogated" doesn't happen at all (because why would it), and other stuff, like when they bring Sahelanthropus back to the base just wouldn't have her in them.

I kinda wish I had stuck to my guns on that choice, really. But, too late now.

This really reminds me of one of the Telltale writers on an interview dump truck "if it's a choice that 90% of people make one way, was it really a choice?"

But now I have to know about (mission 45) the first vial without Quiet

Has anyone discovered a possibility of getting her back? The way Miller said it, it seemed like, she went back to Afghanistan and I'd have to do a repeat of her sniper battle to bring her back home.

Not possible. It would kind of defeat the purpose of her entire story arc if that happened.

It's pretty clear that she sacrificed herself for Snake and disappeared to go die alone somewhere.

I feel like I missed a couple cutscenes. Does that have anything to do with me skipping most of the Chapter 2 missions that weren't story-critical?

Such a goddamn tease. If you do go back and redo Chapter 11, she ends up back in your brig in the menus. It's probably just a bug, but NRGGG.

@ichthy: Can you still use her as a buddy? im kinda regretting doing that mission now, since she was so useful for clearing side-ops.

@lego_my_eggo: Nope, like I said it's probably just a bug.

Damn wish I saw this thread before! just completed that mission. She was so good for side missions. Best part of the story though to be fair and pretty good mission.

Just seen you unlock the cyborg ninja costume small consolation prize.

If you complete the Cloaked in silence extreme mission can you get her back?

I've finished the Man who saved the World and I still have her... I equipped the Butterfly emblem before Mission 46, is there a way to finish her arc?

EDIT: Removing the Emblem, pops side OP 150.

@avantegardener: Just remove the butterfly emblem and return to Mother Base, get back in the the chopper, and Side Ops 150 should be activated, if your bond is maxed. I am pretty sure that is how I just did that.

@fogh: Thanks Duder, that seems to do it.

One thing that I'd like to clarify on this (to save others some frustration) is that you actually lose Quiet permanently before you choose to play the "Secure Quiet" side op or mission 45.

I personally played up until that point with the (mistaken) understanding that I'd still be able to use Quiet as long as I didn't actually play those two missions. But that's not true. Quiet leaves motherbase before you actually play either of those missions and you can't use her as a buddy anymore (permanently) as soon as she leaves.

I didn't know that because I was trying to avoid full on spoilers about how or why you lose her as a buddy. But if anyone else was planning on holding off on those missions with the intent that you would still be able to use her, I would read up fully on it. In short, in order to retain her, you actually need to stop playing story missions (or start wearing the butterfly emblem) quite a bit earlier than mission 45.

I would say that having only viewed this recently, that is was very unclear, and in her final screen time, she seemed very much alive, power of the nano.. parasites son.

The parasites are activated by language but that doesn't mean they immediately kill you or you immediately are contagious. It takes some time before symptoms show up and the person can spread the parasites. She has enough time to talk the helicopter down and then head out and probably a bit more, but then the parasite is going to do its work.

What upsets me is that she like, could of wrote something on a piece of paper, say she is a mute in a different language or like teach Navajo to some people on coms. Does no one know how to write/type on that oil rig?

I have so many side ops that I NEED her for. Also, when I want to do an S Rank run in a year or so. Maybe DLC to get her back :( I need those clutch tranqs back in my life. I love you D-Dog, but you always run into my dart shots.

@hatking:Huh, I must of missed that tape. I get it and I agree that doing what they did is super impactful. It's great that they can stir such emotion, but like I had just got the clothes for her and still have side ops in 2 spots that always have snipers. I'll just quietly wish that I could do some dumb things with MGS Wolf and Snake skins at 0KB.

@cbyrne: The tape just mentioned that she refused to write, the rest is something I inferred. I'm in the similar boat though. I only got to use one of those outfits once before her final mission (and boy was I sick of her weird bathing suit thing). It sucked initially, but now that I'm used to using DD again, I'm just as effective as I ever was.

I did have the thought that it would be cool if as a replacement you could bring one of your soldiers with you (after unlocking the Skull Suit) and they could serve as a replacement. That'd let them explain away the abilities and not feel like a huge loss for the player. Then again, that feeling of loss is pretty awesome. Not that it's a good feeling, but it's cool that a big budget mainstream game actually did that.

There's a decent chance that they won't. The (bad) parasite kills you by colonizing and attacking your lungs. Quiet's lungs are burnt-out husks already, it's not clear that the (bad) parasites can actually do anything to her.

She still would have become contagious, though, which would explain her decision to disappear into the desert, lest she spawn a genocidal plague.

I've played through this game a lot. I kept Quiet every time until recently on my last play through. The more i see from Quiet the more i despise her. She refuses to communicate in any way. Not only is she a prisoner on MB, but shes allowed out to go on missions.

A quiet exit was so emotionally painful it was ridiculous. Im not ashamed to admit it...i cried when she left. I will never feel that phantom pain again, i killed her.