It has had a movie made of it, sooo much fan fiction, games made of its characters, updates and makeovers, and features in other games. Why #7 though? Why is it the best one and the one everyone remembers most.
I watched a friend play it at length and I was bare impressed. To me it seems like an older version of the series. FF13 was a lot more fun to watch.
So, without saying, or alluding to, nostalgia, can someone tell me why it is considered the best/most popular in the series?
Final Fantasy VII
Game » consists of 20 releases. Released Jan 31, 1997
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The seventh numbered entry in the Final Fantasy franchise brings the series into 3D with a landmark title that set new industry standards for cinematic storytelling. Mercenary Cloud Strife joins the rebel group AVALANCHE in their fight against the power-hungry Shinra Company, but their struggle soon becomes a race to save the entire Planet from an impending cataclysm.
Why does everyone love Final Fantasy 7?
Because it was the first "next-gen"' non-nintendo CD based 3D Final Fantasy, and was the beginning of the current period of FF games, where it's less Fantasy and more Sci-Fi. Though Final Sci-Fi doesn't sound as nice, does it?
Personally, I think 6 and 9 were way better. 9 was just funny, so it's automatically more interesting to me, and 6 just had better themes, a better villain, and a cooler setting.
For the people that played the hell out of 7 when it was still fresh and new and popular, the games that came after slowly went downhill.
8 wasn't too bad, but there were some things people didn't like.
9 had more things people didn't like.
By the time 10 came out, people were hoping for something really mind-blowing, but it wasn't, so people were pretty meh about it.
Make sure to differentiate nostalgia, from actual depth and playability. There are games who are still nostalgic, but are fully playable and competent games."
Mostly because it was the first 3D Final Fantasy and at the time a tad minblowing. Now though it looks as impressive as lego characters on a C64.
And also cmon dude, Nostalgia. Its Nostalgia. Most older games are loved because of nostalgia. "
I concur though, FFVII isn't as good as FFVI or even FF4. It feels clunky and it's an absolute horror to look at. But, the story is still decent and the game play is still ok compared to most JRPG's today.
" @EuanDewar said:I would disagree about the story. It had a nice atmosphere though, mainly because of the music I feelMake sure to differentiate nostalgia, from actual depth and playability. There are games who are still nostalgic, but are fully playable and competent games. I concur though, FFVII isn't as good as FFVI or even FF4. It feels clunky and it's an absolute horror to look at. But, the story is still decent and the game play is still ok compared to most JRPG's today. ""
Mostly because it was the first 3D Final Fantasy and at the time a tad minblowing. Now though it looks as impressive as lego characters on a C64.
And also cmon dude, Nostalgia. Its Nostalgia. Most older games are loved because of nostalgia. "
For me it was the first proper JRPG I played and the first Final Fantasy I played. Had 3D graphics, mind blowing cinematic scenes (at the time) and the characters are still my favourite to date. Also I loved the Materia system as well as a lot of the settings. This may all be down to nostalgia but I still love it.
Also, the PSOne was the first console to aim it's marketing to teenagers and young adults, and they fell in love with the higher complexity and themes of games such as Final Fantasy 7 and Metal Gear Solid if compared to the more mainstream hits of the SNES and NES era. Similar RPGs existed, of course, some would say that FF6 is even more mature and deep, but were never as popular at their time.
For a lot of people, it was their first real RPG. People who really got into gaming on the PS1 (maybe they had a SNES or something beforehand, but didn't really get into some of the really in depth experiences like the Final Fantasy games) would have first experienced an RPG on the PS1. And for most people that game was Final Fantasy VII. So people naturally regard it with a very high level of nostalgia.
It was for many the first JRPG they played, it came out at the right time not to mention it was actually great to play. I was never too into the story, the internet diluted what little love I had for that anyway.
Nostalgia does do it a lot of favours, it's aged much worse than most of the FF series in my opinion.
I really, really don't like FF7.
The story is appalling, it controls horribly and I've never been able to get more than a few hours into it (though, have watched it being played through numerous times).
Well there are so many reasons (assuming you aren't just trolling), I think the fact that it was one of the first popular games to feature some genuinely moving story moments was a big part of its enduring appeal. I mean obviously it's an FF game so a lot of it is total craziness but the death of Aeris was a really shocking moment back in 1997. It had an excellent villain in Sephiroth, stacks of INTERESTING activities outside the main storyline (Chocobo breeding and the Gold Saucer were particular highlights) and in my opinion the magic system is the best in the series. It also knocked down a lot of barriers for console-based rpgs outside their traditional home of Japan. Finally you shouldn't forget the fact that at the time it was technically stunning, by far the prettiest looking game on the PS, with great music by Nobuo Uematsu.
I'm not sure why later games in the series haven't been as good, I have flu and my brains melting :-) IMO though, FFX is the only title that comes close to whats generally agreed to be the high point of the series.
I didn't enjoy it personally but I enjoyed watching my housemate play it on occasion.
The short version: It was AWESOME looking.
" To me it seems like an older version of the series. "Some people prefer the older-style Final Fantasy games to the new ones.
VII has lots of nostalgia factor going for it too. First 3D Final Fantasy and all that. Plus it's a great game.
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" @tiwi said:You don't find the story even decent? It's got enough depth to where you can read into characters personalities, and the story is both engaging and interesting, though it lags and struggles to move forward at times (mostly at the start of the game, until about 20 mins after you meet Areis). And even though there's some cases of "deus ex machina" it's as I've said, at least competent or decent. The graphics is one of the only reasons why the game isn't really relevant anymore, but at the time it was amazing." @EuanDewar said:I would disagree about the story. It had a nice atmosphere though, mainly because of the music I feel "Make sure to differentiate nostalgia, from actual depth and playability. There are games who are still nostalgic, but are fully playable and competent games. I concur though, FFVII isn't as good as FFVI or even FF4. It feels clunky and it's an absolute horror to look at. But, the story is still decent and the game play is still ok compared to most JRPG's today. ""
Mostly because it was the first 3D Final Fantasy and at the time a tad minblowing. Now though it looks as impressive as lego characters on a C64.
And also cmon dude, Nostalgia. Its Nostalgia. Most older games are loved because of nostalgia. "
I actually didn't enjoy 7 that much, just didn't click with me like others in the series had. Probably didn't really enjoy a FF again till 10.
" @Laketown said:I actually played it to completion on the PC version in 2008 (I got stuck on the PS1 version in like 2000 or something) and the story definitely does not hold up. all the jenova stuff was hard to follow, the whole "twist" of cloud taking the other dude's identity or whatever wasn't very well done, some of the characters were not as developed as some others (Tifa, besides before you get him Cid, and Red 13 outside of the mystic mountain stuff) and it was just very poorly translated." @tiwi said:You don't find the story even decent? It's got enough depth to where you can read into characters personalities, and the story is both engaging and interesting, though it lags and struggles to move forward at times (mostly at the start of the game, until about 20 mins after you meet Areis). And even though there's some cases of "deus ex machina" it's as I've said, at least competent or decent. The graphics is one of the only reasons why the game isn't really relevant anymore, but at the time it was amazing. "" @EuanDewar said:I would disagree about the story. It had a nice atmosphere though, mainly because of the music I feel "Make sure to differentiate nostalgia, from actual depth and playability. There are games who are still nostalgic, but are fully playable and competent games. I concur though, FFVII isn't as good as FFVI or even FF4. It feels clunky and it's an absolute horror to look at. But, the story is still decent and the game play is still ok compared to most JRPG's today. ""
Mostly because it was the first 3D Final Fantasy and at the time a tad minblowing. Now though it looks as impressive as lego characters on a C64.
And also cmon dude, Nostalgia. Its Nostalgia. Most older games are loved because of nostalgia. "
What I really like about FF7 is how often it changes up the gameplay. Practically every area has a minigame or some interesting wrinkle attached to it. The Shinra Building, Junon, and Gold Saucer are the big ones everyone remembers, but the game deserves serious kudos for constantly mixing up the gameplay.
I've been recently re-playing it (after playing it in 1997 when i was 13) now and I will say, it still holds up in writing, atmosphere and difficulty. I will say, remembering almost nothing about the game, there is a grandiose adventure to it and a difficult battle system. The story can be confusing and I still hold VI as my epitome Final Fantasy, but playing the game 14 years later as a 27-year-old, I still have a blast with it.
The graphics do look like shit now though.
The same reason why many other games get mass appeal and longevity when they aren't really that great to begin with.
The game is solid and extremely playable. Thats all it takes to make a game like this or Halo rise to the top. Gameplay, story, design, or otherwise take a back seat to just being very well built.
" @Laketown: you're right, but again nostalgia and having played crisis core, makes it more believable, at least it sets up some of the story elements. THOUGH advent children then goes ahead and punches you in the gut for believing in the continuity. "also the vincent game is terrible, from what i've heard, but FF7's best quality is the atmosphere, especially that area where you're walking along the train tracks.
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